Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!!!!

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  1. Golem

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    Of course. Starting with the Crusades. From the 12th Century to well into the 17th Century. Much of the Iberian Peninsula was in the hands of Muslims who were in an almost perpetual state of war with the Spanish and Portuguese Christians. It is very much engrained in Spanish culture and many idiomatic expressions that are used to this day had their origin in hatred against the Moors.
     
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    It was a different time. No one was innocent in those days. To single out a particular group is pure folly. It is generally done only in glorification of their own culture.

    I have little doubt that a few hundred years from now, they will look back at our culture and come to similar conclusions. "You mean they raised animals and then slaughtered them and ate their meat or they hunted them down for their meat". "You mean they used to ride horses." Who knows what other atrocities we are committing now when looked at by future generations?
     
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    Much worse. He led the extermination of a complete culture. Spanish under his command beheaded children just for fun. Ordered natives to gather a certain amount of gold every three months, and cut the hands of any who didn't meet the quota... These are just a few of the things he did.

    Who the hell said anything about the indigenous being "innocent". What nonsense! You don't know what you're talking about. There is no comparison between what the locals did, and what the Spaniards under Columbus did. They tried to defend themselves. And did kill some Spaniards in the process. To retaliate, Columbus sent troops to behead every male (adult or child) in a village and submit women and children and keep them as slaves. He bragged in his diaries about things like kidnapping a local women and giving her to his crew to rape her. In a letter he wrote he talks about how he sold 9 and 10 year old girls as sex-slaves.

    There is no comparison. The Aztecs were horrible. But once you're dead... you're dead. You don't care much if somebody eats your heart. What Columbus did was immensely worse.

    Besides, on this day we don't celebrate the Aztecs. We "celebrate" Columbus. One of the worst mass murderers in history.
     
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    We elected Trump...
     
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    The various tribes took natives from other tribes captive and used them as slaves. They murdered and made war on each other. It is impossible to compare what one group did compared to the other. Using today's norms as the standard, they were all savages.
     
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    And even worse, you elected Biden.
     
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    Sorry. That one was a cheap shot. I just couldn't help myself.

    But seriously, the "barbaric" things for which they'll look back to us in disgust will certainly include messing up the environment, putting guns in the hands of every Tom, Dick and Harry who cared to go out on a murder spree, not providing affordable healthcare to everybody, forcing women to bear a child against their will, putting political ideology before scientific fact, not stopping a deadly pandemic when we had the tools to end it... Things like that.
     
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    Or possibly coming to the conclusion that a fetus is a human and abortion amounts to murder.
     
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    A national smoke in day?
     
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    Yes. Burning alive and Torture was pretty across the board. Eating hearts cannibleism and mass sacrifice killing of men women and children was common for Mexico and South American tribes. It's a good thing the Spanish came....
     
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    "Uh" yourself. No! He wiped them out! Literally. Total genocide. The Arawaks alone From a population of 250 thousand it went down to .ZERO. There were still a handful left in the Island for a while, who managed to hide from Columbus and his henchmen. But they were so few that the whole Arawak population became extinct after just a few generations.

    And, again, October 11 (which is actually October 12, but on a Monday) has NOTHING to do with the Aztecs. It's about Columbus having made landfall in the Americas.
     
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    HA! Yes, this is about indigenous people. Wait, no they weren't indigenous, actually. They came over the land bridge and started in africa, so I guess they need to rename this "indigenous for just a little while kinda like current Americans" since that's accurate.

    Oh, the aztecs were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than columbus. Their versions of sacrificing people and torture are the same things we see cartels doing today, odd that their culture is still so ugly. They sacrificed 10 x more than columbus killed, they thought they had to give human hearts to the gods so the sun would come up. by comparison columbus wasn't even a bad neighbor, these people cut hearts out and heads off more than 80K JUST for the inauguration of the Templo Mayor.
     
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    WTF? Are you ok? You appear to have embarked on some sort of mystical trip for no reason at all. Sleeping it off is probably best for you.
     
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    Wait, you didn't think those people grew out of the ground on this continent did you? They're not actually indigenous.

    Most archaeologists agree that it was across this Bering Land Bridge, also called Beringia, that humans first passed from Asia to populate the Americas. Whether on land, along Bering Sea coasts or across seasonal ice, humans crossed Beringia from Asia to enter North America about 13,000 or more years ago.

    http://www.pbs.org/beringlandbridge/guide/history.html
     
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    Of course they're indigenous! What the hell do you think "indigenous" means?

    Read my sig! It is there only to help others avoid making fools of themselves. "Research" can be something as simple as a google search or, sometimes (not always), just looking up a word in a dictionary. And it has allowed many people to avoid ending up looking like dummies. Of course it works much better if you do this research BEFORE you post something stupid. Doing it afterwards appears to cause people to try to change the subject, or ignore the whole thing altogether to try to save face. Bottom line, it just doesn't work quite as well if people do it post-absurdum.
     
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    Uh, maybe read what I linked. None of those people or any of us are "indigenous" as we came across the land bridge 10k years ago. That's basic archeology.
     
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    Hilarious! Even after I gave you a way out, you STILL refused to look up what the word "indigenous" means.

    Oh well... you were warned. Unfortunately (mostly for you) now we have learned more about you than about the topic being discussed. In other words: what a waste of time!
     
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    Ooops .....
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...8/a-proclamation-indigenous-peoples-day-2021/
    "Since time immemorial, American Indians, Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians have built vibrant and diverse cultures — safeguarding land, language, spirit, knowledge, and tradition across the generations. On Indigenous Peoples’ Day, our Nation celebrates the invaluable contributions and resilience of Indigenous peoples, recognizes their inherent sovereignty, and commits to honoring the Federal Government’s trust and treaty obligations to Tribal Nations.

    Our country was conceived on a promise of equality and opportunity for all people — a promise that, despite the extraordinary progress we have made through the years, we have never fully lived up to. That is especially true when it comes to upholding the rights and dignity of the Indigenous people who were here long before colonization of the Americas began."

     
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    Columbus died 600 years ago and he’s still pissing off liberals.
     
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    When you fight with your family you still resent the stranger who comes in and kills most of them.
     
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    The worst thing they could have done:
     
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    What on earth was she thinking:
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    https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/21/students-shocked-math-teachers-dons-paper-headdress

    Students Shocked As Math Teacher Dons Paper Headdress And Launches Into Mock Native American Dance

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    October 21, 202112:55 PM ET

    A Riverside, California, math teacher was placed on a leave of absence after a video of her donning a paper headdress and mocking Native American dance went viral.

    Students began recording math teacher Candice Reed after she put on a paper headdress and began chanting “SOH CAH TOA,” a mnemonic device commonly used in trigonometry classes. According to the Instagram post that publicized the video Wednesday, the student who recorded “felt that violence was being committed against him and he had the right to record.”
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