Putin brags Russia's new hypersonic missiles 'can wipe out US cities' sparking WW3 fears

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  1. DennisTate

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    I like the idea of catapulting President Donald J. Trump into the office of "Christian Political Cyrus" and setting in motion a whole new level of unity between the USA and Israel?!

    Chess is one of the major sports in Russia so rest assured that the long term goal behind this opening gambit by President Putin is beyond the comprehsion of most of us here on the forum..... but....

    on at least some level........ President Putin like myself might just want Biden gone.... and President Trump back.....


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  2. Dayton3

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    I would like to see both Putin and Trump gone forever.
     
  3. AARguy

    AARguy Well-Known Member

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    We took a law course. Constitutional law was part of that. Hey, buddy, its an ENGINEERING SCHOOL. There aren't many fluffy courses.
     
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    AARguy Well-Known Member

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    Are you STILL trying to say that laws passed by Congress, signed by the President and not blocked by SCOTUS are not laws? How's that going? It's not going over so well HERE.
     
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    AARguy Well-Known Member

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    And where would the radiation have come from? Setting off a nuclear explosion is a very complicated process involving a complex procedure to establish a critical mass.
     
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Every nuclear explosion releases radiation to one degree or the other. Especially from the fission triggers in fusion warheads.
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Russians have no intent of launching their nuclear weapons. They just want the US and Nato to know that if they keep pushing for war, that Russia is perfectly capable of destroying them. Not that it makes any difference to the idiots in charge.

    Years ago, Vladimir Putin freaked at the reporters for not telling the American people what was at stake. But to no avail. Right after that they began the development of their hypersonic weapons.




    Russia now has deployed it's S-500 missile defense systems to protect Moscow from a war which seems more and more imminent to them with our regime changes, provocations, etc., etc. So what system do we have to protect NYC, Los Angeles, Houston, Chicago? As for protecting Washington, who cares?

    About the S-500 Air Defense System

    Produced by Russian state-owned defense company Almaz-Antey Concern, the S-500 is designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles and other aerial attacks at an altitude of up to 200 kilometers (124 miles).

    The weapon system can hit up to 10 targets at a range of up to 600 kilometers (372 miles) and has a response time of three to four seconds, shorter than the S-400.

    The S-500 uses the 77N6-N and 77N6-N1 missiles, which can be fitted with an inert warhead capable of destroying enemy nuclear warheads with precision.

    Earlier this year, the Russian Ministry of Defense released footage showing the system’s test launch at the Kapustin Yar range. It reportedly intercepted a “high-speed ballistic target” during the event.

     
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    What a laugh a minute .. an experimental technology that has yet to be deployed - and hopefully which works .. but at the moment .. not to many Champs protecting the homeland ... so ... how many ABM's we have in place and where ? ..and of course these don't work againt cruise missiles .. as is not their purpose and truth be told they don't work real well against ballistics eithe ..

    hypersonics are a game changer but cruise missile technology in general we have no good defense defense .. lest we lined the coast with Patriot batteries ...ohh .. but darn .. that don't work againt the stuff Iran has .. never mind the Russians .. or should we say the Russia/India/China consortia to be more precise . .. good luck against that product .. was mid 90's - Russia introduced the sunburn .. first supersonic sea skimming anti ship cruise missile .. at which point our carrier days were numbered .. having no good defense .. India joined in shortly after .. impressive improvments over the years then China ..shortly after that ..

    Quality product .. India tested their hypersonics what .. 2 years ago or more .. brahmos .. -- but hey .. we can't stop Iran's stuff .. and that never mind the Consortia product.

    Yeah .. sure .. those Champs goonna get em .. ehhhh yee .. sooon as we find some .. and hopefully by the time we get deployed .. the consortia hasn't installed sheilding

    In the mean time ... a few container ships floating off both coasts .. full of the latest voodoo drone/missile technology . Lets have a war .. huuu Raaa ... :) LOL .. Yeah Mon .. but let it not be the Consortia .. no Champs comming to your rescue padawon.
     
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    AEGIS guided Standard missiles work quite well against cruise missiles.
     
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    She'd like to see them gone too.

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    (She didn't say these things, but she came pretty close)
    Listen my friends and please pay heed.
    We have to search, we have to weed
    them Russians from among us folks,
    and catch them in their traitorous works.


    For if we don't then they will rule,
    and turn our land into a tool,
    for Trump and his personal gain,
    and that will be an awful shame.

    For we're Americans and know what's good.
    We know what's right, and what we should
    be doing now, is start to fight
    so we can do the fair and right.

    So let us bomb them day and night,
    and keep them always in our sight
    to make them pay for what they say

    against us in their foolish way.

    And even if we turn to dust,
    it matters not, for it's a must
    to show them that we'll use our might,
    and always do what's fair and right
    - Jeannette

    The End!
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    Russia can't even keep Covid under control. Putin better concentrate on what matters and quit trying to make Russia USSR again.
     
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    Who cares? If you lived in Moscow would you trust that system to protect you in an all-out nuclear war?

    I wouldn’t.

    All it would take is one missile to make it through, and Moscow would be destroyed.

    Nobody wants a nuclear war. Not Putin, not China, not the US.

    The best missile defense is the missile that is never fired.
     
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    3) Do not you know what our current ABM status is ? best you figure it out before calling other folks liars.. so you can figure out that we have none to speak of.

    1) Full out strike .. half the Russian arsenal -- our 4) allies not attacked - 5) leadership matters not as we don't know its coming 2) 3000 targets - all major cities - military installations - power facilities ..nuclear plants - hydroelectric. Pooofffff.

    Leaders .. a laugh that is ... Within the first 10 minutes you have high altitude blasts - coupled with taking out communication - GPS - satelites and radar installations .. concurrent with the sub launched cruise missiles - followed by ballistics

    Then in darkness you wait - no communication - no power - no defenses - for the ICBM's to start landing ... although the nation is already anihillated by the time the ICBM's get here .. but just for good measure.
     
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    IIRC we currently have 44 deployed ABMs as well as hundreds of Standard missiles aboard AEGIS equipped naval vessels which have been successfully tested against ballistic missile.

    How would be not know an attack was coming? You can't simply launch thousands of missiles without it being noticed.
     
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    No they don't .. but, it matters not -- once again demonstrating your complete lack of understanding of what is happening - Our ships are not being attacked - and we don't have the AEGIS system protecting the Homeland..
     
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    AEGIS equipped ships in San Diego, Galveston, Norfolk, and several other places could be very handy protecting the Homeland.

    And I can always link to the test results of Standards against missiles
     
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    The main thing he was doing was to show what an imbecile Hadley Gamble is:
     
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    Yes ... 44 ABMs which is a very small number not intended not expected to be able to do much in a full scale attack . and the homeland is not defended by the Aegis system our ships are not being attacked .. the homeland is being attacked - get on the right page.



    So .. no defenses to speak of - and there is no way to know an attack is coming .. and noticing when they are launched gives you perhaps 10 minutes before the nukes start going off ... launched from subs .. 30 minutes for the ICBMs. "Leadership" matters not in this scenario . only decision is whether or not to fire back - makes zero difference to the coming annihilation

    Speak .. Tell us how the US is up and running again shortly after the apocalypse.
     
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    Russian submarines are never going to be able to launch. U.S. attack submarines routinely shadow them and have standing orders to destroy them if they are preparing to launch a missile.

    And Russian submarines no longer operate that close to the U.S. mainland anyway.

    Not sure why you can't understand why ships with missiles in port would be fully capable of launching to defend that port.

    But go ahead get all snide and arrogant.
     
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    No .. they don't -- you are dreaming .. The Aegis can not take out an ICBM .. at best perhaps a short or intermediate range ballistic missile from Iran .. but even that is pushing it .. and good luck without GPS or long range Radar .. AEGIS is not a defense against ICBMs sorry mate .. you just have to wait .. for the bombs to drop.

    Now quit stalling and tell us how the US is back up and running in short order after a full scale nuke attack.
     
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    Laughable nonsense ... Russia has popped up Subs without our knowledge .. the claim that our subs are on the tails of the Russian subs .. close enough to stop the launch .. is just abject nonsense. ... and Russian subs don't have to operate that close ..not that you would know they are there... cept in fantasy dreamland. China has popped a sub up next to our carrier un-noticed .. you are talking out your backsid

    So .. Full scale attack - tell us how we are going to recover in short order.

    Ships defending a port .. what a laugh .. the first nuclear cruise missile would take out all those ships .. poof .. by the time you would be able to intercept it .. your dead .. you have no clue what you are talking about .. desperately dreaming that we are defended.

    Why is it we only have 44 ABM sites ? .. in two locations one in alaska .. think the other is california -- if we have this great missile system that can shoot down ICBM's .. but for some reason only put them on our ships .. common sense goes a long way some times.
     
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    Wrong
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-174_Standard_ERAM
     
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    attack submarines, not ballistic missile submarines.
     
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    That is not for ICBM's ... it is for an anti ship missile .. and no one is shooting at ships... What part of AEGIS is not for ICBM do you not understand ? .. and it is the homeland being attacked not a ship..

    We do not have a defense against ICBM's Now quit stalling and tell us how the US is back up and running after a full scale nuclear attack.
     
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    What part of .. we have no defense against ICBM's .. do you not understand ?
    Further .. there are not attack subs close enough to the Russian subs to prevent launch. and for cruise missiles .. you could lanch them from a container ship .. should you desire .. but either way .. ICBMs are comming .. so quit avoiding the question

    How is the US going to be up and running in short order after a full scale nuclear attack. ??
     
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