He was asleep in his car. Police woke him up and created a reason to kill him

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised this didn't come out until now. We have a qualified immunity issue again. At the end I've included a legal case text which has more context:
    Here's the link to the case text:
    https://casetext.com/case/stewart-v-city-of-euclid
     
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    Life in prison for these m'f*ckers
     
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    The police didn't create a reason to kill him. The decedant created a reason to be killed when he drove off with an officer in the car and continued to drive recklessly as the officer tased and hit him multiple times trying to get him to stop the car.
     
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    No he didn't.
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps you should read the court opinion. It clearly states that was the case.
     
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    Another bias fictional black story to rile up the left. They did not announce themselves as officers? How the hell would they know?
    They had no reason to shoot the guy? Again, how they hell would they know.
    Fake
     
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    They didn't Identify themselves as police, so he was trying to get away from the men attacking him.
     
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    Yet One More story lacking the full context.

    I also have to ask myself why the op tends to post threads it always make race a Central feature?
     
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    obvious the man was drugged, don't like the fact the cops "forgot" to arm their camera's and microphones, forgot to anounce they were police, forgot to turn on the cop lights that tell everyone it's a cop

    sounds like the one cop panicked and could have handled this better had he been calmer

    the guy did put the cops lives in danger, probably unknowingly due to intoxication, so technically a justified kill, but did not have to be, the cop could of done a better job

    he was not hitting the cop back, the cop was just so freaked out, he was in a state of panic, could not do anything right, not use the stun gun correctly, not get the keys out, not put in neutral, could not put parking brake on, anything, and the guy was not fighting back, so all he had to do is take a deep breath and remain calm and do what he needed to do - sounds like fight or flight got the cop good, and he was just acting on primitive survival impulse

    the guy in the driver's seat was calm as a pickle, though not thinking clearly obviously

    at the very least the cop could have said, "hey dude, I am the police, stop"

    I have never understood why people get this intoxicated in public, do it in your home, it's safer
     
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    Wow! USA Today had to dredge up an incident from 4 YEARS AGO to stir the racial chamber pot? Send it to Joe, maybe he'll invite the family to dinner for a photo-op AND write 'em a nice check. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well at least you are now acknowledging he did what you previously said he didn't do.
     
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    This article is so full of **** I don't even know where to start. Let's start with what the **** is he doing asleep in the car at this hour? Where is the toxicology report? I'll wager he wasn't killed for sleeping while black, the most race-baiting claim I've read to date, but passed out from intoxication. Intoxication that began and ended with him DRIVING. As a betting man I'll wager they DID announce themselves as police officers. Patrol officers have every right to check on the driver, what if he was OD'ing or already dead? What I see is another family of losers who are trying to cash in on this loser getting himself shot for being a giant clown.
     
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    It's the media that keeps framing everything in racial terms. We seem to get a lot of opinion pieces about that being presented as straight news stories.
     
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    He still didn't do it.
     
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    Wait.

    Is that what happened?

    Lol. The OP makes it sound like cops walked up and just opened fire on a sleeping person.
     
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    The second link in the OP at the bottom has the court ruling and discusses what facts were disputed and undisputed. Most were undisputed. The chain of events was a little longer but what I described is what the court decision described the final moments as having been. The spark notes version as I recall (read yesterday) is cops get a call of a suspicious vehicle. Has tinted windows and is parked with light on. First cop arrives and waits for number two. They box him in. Guy was asleep and they saw drug paraphernalia and possibly a wine bottle lid (the lid was in dispute). The cops then proceed to do their thing. Guy resists, gets car in gear, bumps police car in front, then makes it onto road with one of the cops still in the car a struggle continues, the car stops then starts off again cop still inside, struggle still happening. Cop inside tries to taser him a few times both with the prongs and with direct contact, then beats on him with the taser. The driver is picking up speed, on and off the road almost hitting a utility pole, and the cop only then drew his weapon and fired into the guy, paused and then shot him again after first volley didn't stop him. Throughout from beginning to end, perp reportedly would just say something like "Naw, N****a" sporadically when he chose to speak at all and that was it.
     
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    Here's the thing, they didn't ID themselves as cops, so as far as this guy was concerned two men were trying to drag him from the car and do god knows what to him.
     
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    They were in full police uniform and there was a marked squad car in front and behind him, including the one he hit. Even if he was just startled there was plenty of awake time between them entering the vehicle and him being shot to, "Oh, snap. You a cop?" I mean if the a guy in a brown UPS uniform gets out of a UPS truck and starts walking up my driveway, it is reasonable to assume on his part that I know he is a UPS delivery guy and not a ninja assassin.

    Now I don't know what the laws are where this happened, but where I live, if you are asleep in a car even on private property, the police will assume you are drunk and proceed to investigate. You can be arrested for drunk driving when you are just sleeping it off parked at Walmart. I don't agree with that or the policies behind it, but I recognize it can and does happen.
     
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    When your asleep?
     
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    We get it. Cops always bad. Blacks always good-natured victims of persecution.
     
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    So when you're asleep, your perfectly aware of your surroundings. Got it.
     
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    One could be forgiven for the confusion because it seems that that's all you post about.

    At least reading through your recently posted threads list gives that impression
     
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    Sounds completely justified to me.
     

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