43,644 people shot in America thus far this year

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently don't need a mind to have an opinion either.
     
  2. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not what he is talking about! Is your English not very good?

    It is obvious that you don't understand what I or Cybred is talking about.
     
  3. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a fifth example of something that kills as well as guns:


    "Kongsberg: Five dead in Norway bow and arrow attack"
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58906165

    EXCERPT "Four women and a man were killed and two others wounded when a man used a bow and arrow to attack them in Norway." CONTINUED
     
  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need help!
     
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    To cut this short, let me know when it approaches guns.
     
  6. Grau

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    Re: "It is obvious that you don't understand what I or Cybred is talking about"

    The phrase in red is strong evidence that my understanding of the English language is better than yours.

    @Cybred wrote:
    ""Nope, you guys have always claimed that other things kill as well as guns which is not true."

    This sentence can mean two things.

    1."Nope, you guys have always claimed that other things kill as effectively as guns which is not true."

    Or:

    2. "Nope, you guys have always claimed that other things kill in addition to guns which is not true."

    Regardless of the meaning, the examples I've provided refute either interpretation.
     
  7. mitchscove

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    Bernie's would be assassin was said to have fired 200 shots in an attempt murder duly elected opponents of the free healthcare Bernie promised him. He only landed 5 shots and none were fatal. If he were around to ask about convenience and quickness, he'd probably tell you that he should have brought silverware to the field to accomplish his mission.
     
  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just don't understand English so well and if for one minute you think he was saying that no one has ever been killed by anything other than a gun then it's not only your English that is lacking.
     
  9. 61falcon

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    If bows and arrows killed as effectively as guns we would be a nation of Redskins today.
     
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  10. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Airport confiscations of record number of guns as more and more try to carry weapons on board the plane, they are reporting someone tried to board with a disarmed hand grenade???
     
  11. Kal'Stang

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    And if you understood that its not the tools being used to kill, but the people that are doing the killing then you would stay silent instead of continuing on showing your ignorance of the subject.

    No Link?
     
  12. Cybred

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    Then you don't need a gun to defend yourself.
     
  13. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    This makes no sense in relation to what I said?
     
  14. Cybred

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    You said its not the tool but the person that's dangerous, if this is true then ANY tool will work for defense, you don't need a gun.
     
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  15. Kal'Stang

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    No, I said "And if you understood that its not the tools being used to kill, but the people that are doing the killing". I said nothing about whether or not a gun is dangerous or not. A bow is dangerous. A gun is dangerous. According to that PO I spoke of previously, a toothpick is dangerous. But in the end, no matter how dangerous an object is, it is only the person that kills. Not the tool.

     
  16. Thingamabob

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    In that case, Americans are the most dangerous people in the western world .....

    ... and therefore Americans, most definitely, ought not to be allowed to have any guns at all.

    BOTTOM LINE: The most dangerous people should not have the most dangerous weapon in their hands. It's pure logic. You can't get more obvious than that.
     
  17. Cybred

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    Then you agree you don't need a gun for self defense.
     
  18. Kal'Stang

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    Repeating yourself does nothing but annoy.
     
  19. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you don't need a gun for self-defence. If people don't "get it" then it is best to repeat it.
     
  20. Cybred

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    Glad, you're able to admit your deficiencies.
     
  21. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...I'm not even going to bother with you. You've admitted to wanting the 2nd Amendment repealed. You're not worth talking to on this subject.
     
  22. Marine1

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    Do we have to keep bringing up Chicago again?
     
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  23. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I agree and you're right. There's too much focus on Chicago.

    Let's talk about mass shootings in Saint Louis, Houston, Colorado Springs, Racine, Jackson, Mobile, Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Sioux City, Dover, Dallas, Albany, Denver, Baltimore, D.C, Montgomery, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Cleveland, Rockford, San Antonio, Aurora, Cedar Rapids, NYC, Oakland, Seattle, Utica, Athens, Chattanooga, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Miami, Rochester, Augusta, Paterson, Orlando, Wichita, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Birmingham, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Nashville, Las Vegas, San Diego, Portland, Grand Rapids, Detroit, Akron, Trenton, Philadelphia, Boston, Norfolk,Nashville,Providence, Saginaw, Lexington, Davenport, Charleston, Columbus, Toledo, Tucson, Sacramento, Indianapolis, El Paso, Hartford, Buffalo, Omaha, Kansas City, Fort Worth, Norfolk, Dover, Memphis, Greensboro, Richmond, Atlantic City, Anchorage, Baton Rouge, Newark, Louisville, Savannah, Yonkers, Salt Lake City, Miami, Wilmington, Phoenix, Charleston, Little Rock, Wichita, Fort Worth, Dayton, Tampa, Greensboro ………

    :gun:….. and more than 100 other mass shooting cities in the US.
     
  24. kriman

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    The total of all those is less than those in Chicago.
     
  25. 61falcon

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    You are dead wrong there!!!
     

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