Was Trump our worst president?

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, I voted he definitely was not our worst president. I voted based on the following.
    1. Enormous amount of accomplishments.
    2. Promoted human freedom.
    3. Did not take guff from other nations.
    4. Acted to protect our border.
    5. Rapidly moved to create vaccines now being used.
    What can you think of that makes Trump a very good president?
    I bring this to the forum from a Survey gone national.

    Friday, Oct 22.
    Was Donald Trump the Worst President of All Time?

    Was Donald Trump the worst President of all time?
    Yes – He made numerous major mistakes while in office. Many of which set the country back in serious ways. (5,649) vote
    No – Trump was a tireless leader who fought for America (94,734) vote
    Would you vote for Donald Trump if he ran again in 2024?
    Yes – I would be delighted to have him back in power (89,130) vote
    No – It’s time for America to move on from Trump (5,604) vote
    Maybe – It depends on who the other candidates are at that time (5,650) vote

    https://www.americanpolling.org/survey/surveyd91ba77/survey1stats.html
     
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    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

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    If it's in print it's obviously true. BARFFFFF
     
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  3. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Putting your Twilight years to good use, Robert?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Worst? Probably not. He never engaged in outright genocide. Worst in modern history? Certainly.
     
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    Best President in my g damn lifetime, hands down. Unlike some, I don't cower to lib's constant barrage of orange man bad BS, so I tell it like it is. Never let the left censor your speech.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Just pretend your speech is being censored in order to avoid any kind of legitimate criticism of your God Emperor.
     
  7. Xyce

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    We're not talking about Fauci.

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    Please stay on topic.
     
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    And this is the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. 'God Emperor', what happened to Cheeto Nazi? Running out of material? Good luck with your mail ballot scam in 3 years.
     
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    Trump left office with the lowest GDP average of any modern President.
    Trump signed off on the largest debt increase in any four year term.

    Trump failed to protect the US against a biologic attack from China resulting in the most deaths on US soil of American civilians of any President.

    Trump rallied his supporters in an attempt to thwart Congress from completely it's Constitutionally mandated task of certifying the vote.

    Yup - Trump certainly would be ranked as one of the worst US Presidents.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Best and worst are subjective. Usually determined by one's partisan leans. When I see such lopsided results, it easy to deduce that the poll was taken on a right wing site which would include almost all being Trump supporters. Like just polling Republicans and only Republicans.

    America as a whole is a different reality. I think Trump's approval ratings over his presidency shows what America as a whole thinks of him along with the results of the 2020 election. although that doesn't make Trump the worst president of all times. I'm sure many Democrats think that. But America as a whole thought he needed to be replaced. They were very dissatisfied with him. Again that doesn't make him the worst.

    It also doesn't make him the best. Just a president that a majority of Americans wanted gone. I'd never vote for him, never did preferring Johnson in 2016 and Biden in 2020. But even with all Biden's faults, he has had many, he's still better than a presidents with his spoiled brat childish antics of name calling and throwing temper tantrums along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics.

    But behaving like an adult, which Biden does, Trump didn't, doesn't make Biden the best or worst either. It's just refreshing to have a grownup back in the white house.
     
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    Are you gonna bother voting, Bill?

    Seems kind of pointless when the game is so rigged.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Change the channel for crying out loud
     
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    Sums it up

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    I was not and never will be a Bush fan but Trump is another level
     
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    The recession was caused by Democrats. Before the Chinese unleashed this disease during an election year and the Democrats used it as an excuse to destroy the economy, in February 2020, the unemployment rate was 3.5%.

    When Trump imposed travel restrictions on China, the place in which the disease originated, Biden, Democrats, and the media (but I repeat myself) referred to it as xenophobic.

    No, he didn't.

    As for it being a Constitutionally mandated task, no, the Constitution does not mandate that Congress certify a corrupted election.

    1. https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2020/1...ess-for-27-weeks-or-more-in-february-2020.htm
     
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    All the best presidents lose the popular vote 2X, get impeached 2X, and get booted out of office as an incumbent.
    So, I say he has to be the best of all time.
     
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    I don't compare people to Nazis, regardless their party, unless they are actual neo-Nazis. Unlike yourself, I have some respect for those who suffered under Hitler and for our soldiers who fought his forces. And "God Emperor" isn't new material. I didn't start using it until I saw a Trump fan had created fan art depicting Trump as the God Emperor of Mankind. The meme has been around since 2015. I didn't start it. Trump supporters did. But you keep pretending the election was stolen while defending a man who ACTUALLY tried to steal the election. At least it has entertainment value.
     
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    There is no evidence of a "corrupted election." The only person who tried to corrupt the election was Trump. He pressured everyone around him to **** on the Constitution and steal the election for him.
     
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    Unlike many PF posts.
     
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    I'll go even further: we probably would have been better off with President Ted Cruz. It makes me physically uncomfortable to even type that, but I think Trump takes it to that level.
     
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    If someone hates Mexicans. For him, the Donald surely is one of the best presidents of all time.

     
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    Interesting “theory of disagreement”. IOW, get an formation flow to match mine so we can agree.
    Xi Jinping agrees.
     
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    Funny definition of "best president". The best president is a president who turns out to be a failure after being a certain time in office, right? :D
     
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    Don't be silly . . . they also have to try to overthrow our democratic elections and install himself as an unelected leader. That's really what seals the deal.
     
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    Biden has every President beat and we are only in about a year.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't understand your irony.
     

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