Was Trump our worst president?

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  1. pitbull

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    Not Whites, but white supremacists. :(
     
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    Only according to the people that think trump is the best president ever.

    The rest of the nation disagrees.

    Presidents are not rates until after their term. trump consistently ranks near the bottom and Biden has about three to seven years before he will be ranked.

    Take solace in your right wing echo chamber polls though. Hold onto them tightly.
     
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    Please learn your history. The CSA battle flag stands for a racist America where blacks have to be slaves.
    And Trumpsters think that's good. :(
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you claiming it was republicans firing at Ft. Sumter?
    America is far less racist than Democrats allege it is. They enjoy smearing America.

    Slavery only exists among our armed forces.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where are blacks slaves?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ronald Reagan is this nations best all time president. Trump can't tie his shoes compared to Reagan.

    I see what Biden does virtually daily and the man is not competent.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does that even mean? What percent are you alleging are Americans?

    Do you know what a White supremacist is?
     
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    It was Trump's childish, four year old spoiled brat behavior that defeated him. Not Biden nor his policies. It was his uncouth very rude persona that caused folks to dislike him. One doesn't expect that out of a president. So politics and policy took a backseat to personality which Trump stood little to no chance.

    Had he the personality of a Reagan, maybe a Bill Clinton or an Obama, Trump may have waltz to reelection. But he didn't, his persona turned off the majority of voters regardless of what they thought about his policies. There's a lesson to be learned here, but somehow that lesson is lost on most Republicans.
     
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    At that time there was no strict separation between Reps and Dems. It was more about Unionists against the non-USA movement (Confederates). The latter embraced slavery and lost the war. The good always win. :)

    That's correct. BLM people exaggerate a lot. There is certainly a bit of racism in America today, but not so much to justify violent rioting.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I shall not ask you a thing. I am pretty well schooled on that era, thank you.
    Why is it the only race blasted for racism happens to be white?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do believe this. The media is why you think that way about Trump. They painted him as any director painting his actors paint his. Make stuff up only because you seem to accept what the media did to Trump.
     
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    Reagan gave weapons to Saddam Hussein and negotiated release of prisoners with weapon exchanges to terrorist organizations. There are arguments showing he is responsible for the creation of Al Qaeda.

    His administration had more documented cases of corruption than any other president in the history of the United States, up until trump.

    His tax policy is directly responsible for the collapse of the middle class and the wealth divide that had never existed to such extreme levels in the US.

    He robbed Social Security to pay for his failed policies, repeated known lies and ignored a pandemic spreading across the nation.

    Why am I not surprised you believe he was a great president. And trump does absolutely compare to him — but I think history will judge trump much more harshly.
     
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    Yeh, it couldn’t have been him bragging about sexual assault — numerous cases of adultery, fraud, embezzlement or him offering to pay the legal fees of his supporters that attack liberals.

    Definitely not him retweeting that the only good Democrat is a dead one… Yeh, that was all the media

    If someone really thinks that trump didn’t do any of the things that he did, and it was all the media. They are brain dead
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When read bunk claims like the above, one knows he is suffering propaganda.
    I suggest you quit reading Bob Woodward and read the team in this book.

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    Actually those jailed who worked in some capacity for the white house or one of the agencies is really slim pickings. So many were overturned by courts of law.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are meaning his bragging on the bus, he did not admit to sexual assault. His claim as a braggart was the women let you.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are Democrats comments always including attacks on posters who post important facts?
     
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    For a normal poster I would happily spend time sprucing each but it would be a lost cause.

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you believe only republicans are in charge of the economy?
     
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    I'm sorry. Unfortunately, I don't have that impression of you.

    It's the only breed that promoted racism in the past. They are the majority thus making their race war invalid.
     
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    I don’t.
    Democrats are inept and Republicans are corrupt

    Horse and sparrow policies were fully embraced by the right and not fought against by the left. It is ultimately both of their faults, but one of them was the cause.
     
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    When I seen Trump's childish name calling and throwing of temper tantrums well be the first GOP primary back in 2016, my mind was made up about him. I didn't need any media or anything else tell me that this guy wasn't quite right. It amazed me to see the GOP nominate a 7 time party switcher who had been a Republican for only 4 years and had donated tons of cash to the democrats previously. But since I'm not a republican, that was their business.

    I do think you give the media way too much credit when Trump by his spoiled brat behavior deserves it all. Most folks don't like anyone to behave as Trump did. Some could over look his childish antics and 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics, others couldn't. Due to those who couldn't, we now have Biden.
     
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    ****. Reagan was duped into giving millions of illegals amnesty while leaving the border wide open. Reagan also gave all those illegals free hospital care.

    And the Democrats weren't near as bad as the current socialists claiming to be 'Democrats'.

    So Reagan had it much easier...and had two terms.

    Trump did more with less in one term. The end.

    The first slave owner was a black man.

    There was no one CSA battle flag. FYI. Learn history as someone said.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would say it this way. Reagan had a heart for those living in America.
    As to Reagan giving free hospital care, why don't you understand how laws are made?
    Presidents do not make laws. They can either say yes to Congress or no to Congress.

    Tip O'Neil promised to Reagan things and then denied the things.
    I rank Reagan the top of all presidents based on studies by me and other scholars.
    Reagan was attacked daily as was Trump. Trump however waged war right back. Reagan did it different, thank god.

    I am not willing to make this post about blacks.
    I am not willing to make this topic about the ancient history of the South either.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since you do not include actual videos or articles by non biased sources. I must dismiss the entire argument. As to whom you vote for, that is your privilege and I defend that privilege.

    Yes you are no Republican but you do a lot that harms politics.

    Surely you can produce even one video showing Trump as a bully?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not persuasive.
     

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