What has Biden done for America and Americans?

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  1. Marine1

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    No, Biden has only been in less than 10 months. His economy will be really judged when he leaves. Obama's bad economy was not because of any virus. It's because he had record high corporate taxes and near record high regulations that made it next to impossible for American companies to compete in a world market.


    In a race to the finish, Obama administration presses ahead ...
    www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-a-race-to-the...
    As the future Trump administration begins to take shape, the Obama White House is engaged in a frenzied, final effort to put in place as many new rules and regulations as time allows.



    20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency
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    More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.



    The U.S. Has the Highest Corporate Income Tax Rate in the ...
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    In today’s globalized world, U.S. Corporations are increasingly at a competitive disadvantage. They currently face the highest statutory corporate income tax rate in the world at 39.1 percent. This overall rate is a combination of our 35 percent federal rate and the average rate levied by U.S. States.
     
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    Again it goes by all the businesses the Blue states shut down. Now many of them don't want to go back to work.
     
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    Trump was the one that issued the guidelines to shutdown and the guidelines of when to reopen
     
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    Not true at all. Trump tried to get Blue states to open up. Do you notice most of the things you believe is completely wrong? Where are you getting your bad information?

    1. www.ft.com › content › 9ab30517-bc04-44d4-a508Trump urges states to open up despite Covid surge | Financial ...
      Mr Trump told a crowd in Janesville, Wisconsin: “You’ve got to open your state up. You’ve got to open it up and get back to school.”. And he addressed his own case of coronavirus, telling ...

    2. www.forbes.com › sites › andrewsolenderTrump Says He’s Pushing Blue States To Reopen, Claims They’re ...
      Aug 04, 2020 · “We are opening the economy very rapidly,” Trump said, adding “frankly some of the blue states we wish they'd do it and they'd do it fast. We're asking them to do it. They like to keep it ...
      • Author: Andrew Solender
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    That's all they EVER have, "Well, he beat Trump, SO THERE!....spoken as the ship of state slowly sinks under the waves....LOL
     
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    Trump played you, he released official guideline to the States - never changed those guidelines, yes he did a couple of times say the opposite unofficially, so that he could claim both things in the end, and some would foolishly buy it

    "The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

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    "*** In states with evidence of community transmission, bars, restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed."


    "The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

    "30 days to slow the spread"

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...3.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf
     
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    And again, that's a personality problem, not a policy problem.

    Was it Trump's personality, or his policies that created the stress you felt?

    If it was his policies, please name them, and please be specific.

    If it was just his personality, than that's your problem, not Trump's.
     
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    as President, that is a huge problem

    Manson had a personality problem too, he didn't actually kill anyone
     
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    Lots of examples in this thread of things Trump "gave us" are just things that happened while he was in office. Proximity to a situation does not mean you're responsible for that situation.

    If it did, the economic downturn last year, which was clearly because of COVID, could actually be blamed on Trump since he was president when it happened.

    And it's always pathetic when the inflation gets blamed on Biden when Biden didn't do anything differently than Trump did when it came to stimulus packages. Blaming the stimulus packages for the bulk of the inflation is dumb to begin with. We have inflation right now because COVID is still lowering supply but the reopening of economies is driving demand higher. Some of it is artificial too. Prices are going up in part because COVID gives the perfect cover for price increases whether they're actually needed or not.
     
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    Your inability to handle the stress of dealing with another person's personality is YOUR problem, and it's immature of you to blame such a thing on anybody but yourself.

    Joe Biden has the personality of a demented incompetent, but that causes me no stress, because I'm an adult, and I can deal with it. It's the consequences of Joe's Biden's disastrously-incompetent policies that cause me stress.
     
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    The president's job is mainly as a figurehead. Their personality and how they conduct themselves is a major part of what they do. It affects not only the people in this country but how the rest of the world interacts with this country too. If you've ever worked for a bigger company before, you'd understand how the tone set by the big boss makes a difference across the board. While it's not the same situation when we're talking about citizens and the president, it is the same dynamic. How you conduct yourself, the tone you set, the atmosphere you create, it's all part of how your job affects everyone else. Don't pretend it isn't.
     
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    Notice you completely dodged his question.
     
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    The problem arises when people become too preoccupied, obsessed even, with personality to the point where they completely ignore policy, or even work against good policy out of spite for the personality.

    That was absolutely the case with Trump. There were people who were actively working to make Trump's policies fail because they hated his personality. That's insanity. That's mental illness, and there was plenty of that.

    I have no problem discussing how and why Joe Biden's policies are terrible, and how they're failing, but the Trump haters were rarely ever willing to do the same when it came to Trump's policies. It was all only ever about the personality.
     
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    And replaced it with stress concerning damn near everything else. And note Trump stress is still every time the man takes a breath there are half a dozen leftist start threads crying about it.
     
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    just because others support an immoral narcissist like Trump, doesn't mean everyone has too
     
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    Just because Trump is an immoral narcissist doesn't mean you have to stress yourself into a life threatening panic over his personality like a lunatic.
     
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    whose stressing now, only the people that worship the man, they're stressing over the truth about Trump coming out, sad!

    but we have made progress, at least we agree Trump is an immoral narcissist
     
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    You. You're stressing. You're the one that claimed that the stress Trump caused was literally killing people.

    I feel zero stress in regards to Joe Biden's personality, because he doesn't have one. The dementia has erased his personality, and he's just a husk. I feel sympathy for the poor man, but no stress.

    It's Team Joe's disastrous policies that are causing me stress.
     
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    Funny, we always hear from conservative individualists that you are the only one responsible to make your life better, rather than look to government to do it for you. At least that's what they say when it comes to minorities that live in poverty.

    So, instead of looking to Biden, why don't you improve your own life, for example by getting another job that pays better? Should be easy right now, because for the first time in decades, the job seekers have the upper hand in the job market. Thanks Biden --- actually he had nothing to do with it, but it is happening on his watch, which would have given rise to countless "Thanks Trump" posts, were he still in power.
     
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    looking at someones profile photo, seems someone is stressing ;)

    is it me, really?
     
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    More people have died under Biden than under Trump so is Joe responsible.
     
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    from the pandemic Trump passed on to Biden

    Biden is trying to get Trump supporters to take the vaccine the best he can, do you support him?
     
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    Are those vaccines that both biden and his cackling VP said they wouldn't take because Trump approved of them, and that Trump pushed them in record time to offer the American people? And its hardly just Trump supporters that refuse to take the vaccine for numerous reasons. You think all those Navy Seals and all those cops nationwide that have lost their jobs and lost their benefits for not taking the vaccine were all trump supporters/ Well, if they weren't Trump supporters before, you can count on them being anti biden Trump supporters today.
     
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    that is fake news, they said they would listen to the experts, not Trump
     
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    1. Sure, Biden wants to give them option to buy healthcare, but it won't be for free.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...rs-must-pay-immigrant-health-care/5485242002/
    2. From your article
    So the free services is only for migrants who were separated from their children under the previous administration and not for current migrants. It's hardly an invitation to migrate when the rule only applies to those who were already affected. But media regurgitating lies sure makes it seem like an invitation.

    Also, the author of the article is a journalist for the washington examiner, which is far right.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/author/eddie-scarry
     

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