Alec Baldwin kills one,inures another with Prop Gun on set.

Maybe not, depending on how exactly this happened. But this could be about culture, specifically Hollywood culture. I've long believed that Hollywood rules are different than our rules. For example, I've watched many movies which could be considered child abuse, but it's ok when Hollywood does it. I would be jailed if I coached these children for weeks to say and do what some of these directors are asking them to say and do.

So, again, depending on exactly how this happened, it could be another example of elites playing the "rules for thee but not me" game.

 

Because none of us are perfect, everyone's life is littered with mistakes. Sometimes a mistake has tragic consequences. This is one of those times. We are all mortal. So all of life holds inherent in it a danger to our mortality.

 

I feel for Alec Baldwin. The torment one goes through after an accident like this is life long.

 

To the bolded: No, that's incorrect. Those phrases are not equal in meaning. You not understanding this is your problem, not mine.

To the underlined: Clearly you're unhinged when it comes to trump to make a ridiculous statement like this (when was trump mentioned anyway?). No rational conversation can be had with someone like this. You go on to justify rioting which further proves no rational conversation can be had here, so I won't try.

 

The left running to defend baldwin is motivated in politics and nothing else. So yea, sadly, it's political.

 

Agreed. You know he's beating himself up over it privately. If I had taken just one minute out my day to open and check the gun, it would have spared my dear lady her entire life.

 

You're almost surely right... Baldwin's just another hateful, loudmouthed liberal who barely knows which end of a weapon the 'fire' comes out of.

Of course, the hyperliberal media will rush to Baldwin's defense and put all the blame on the set's "armorer", but as the idiot who, supposedly, 'dry-snapped' at ANYBODY without checking, a court should nail his ass just as much, if not more....

 

The other member didn't specifically address any one sentence of yours. He addressed the intent of your post which you go on to explicitly affirm is your intent. Arguing about the meaning of whether or not the other statement means what it clearly does is belied by your assertion in the very next sentence after you assert that the other member didn't understand English.

I really could care less about whether or not you agree with my assessment of your post. I simply used it as an example of yet another member posting stuff that is inconsistent and miserably confident of their ability to educate others on a subject they are clearly incompetent to have the ability to do so.

Regarding your assertion that the underlined statement of mine is ridiculous that's a bit like arguing that the Confederacy was way less extreme than the Union and then asking who said anything about Robert E. Lee. Trump is the leading voice of the right. Own it.

 

I don't think you can arm-chair this. They will take many factors into account; intent, negligence, the death Wii be the biggest. I don't think there was intent to do harm, but, obviously, there was negligence. Another factor will be Baldwin is a principal, producer, not just an employee, actor. With her death being the overwhelming consideration, criminal negligence isn't unlikely. I wouldn't want to be Baldwin, if he didn't know better ... he should have.

 

Negligent homicide doesn’t require intent.

 

I didn't say it did, but before any charges are made all factors will be taken into account. It could easily go either way. Baldwin, the armorer or both could be charged, or neither. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

Even if it is ruled negligent homicide, I think Baldwin is already suffering more than enough. I don't think any further punishment would serve any purpose at all.

 

If that were the litmus test for crime we could cut the case load by half. A woman, mother, wife is dead. Everything needs to be considered, investigated and the appropriate measures taken.

 

Baldwin is obviously taking some time out from eating children and drinking their blood with Tom Hanks

 

Assistant director who allegedly yelled 'cold gun' on 'Rust' set had unsafe history, prop maker says

"Dave Halls, the assistant director on the New Mexico set of “Rust,” where Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, allowed an unsafe environment on more than one production, according to a special effects technician who previously worked with Halls. “He did not maintain a safe working environment,” Maggie Goll said in a detailed statement to NBC News. "


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru

 

Your aim is to jam your nose so far up Trump's behind you'll be deafened by all the other Republicans up there still chanting "lock her up" in their non-authoritarian attempt to jail their political opponents. Were these the same "solid gold plated principles" that cost Trump 25 millions for teaching at his "University" or enabled him to steal 2 million from charities he sponsored?

(You can fawn and defend and praise all you want. Dirty Don will never know you exist and wouldn't admit it if he did.)

Movies sets can be dangerous (ask Vic Morrow's detached head) and Baldwin had an accident just like you might on the highway in a car, which I'm sure you've never done.

 

deltted

 

He is tough , he will survive. His victim did not......... and left others suffering a final loss. That cannot be undone. Others were affected by this incident too....... and now have to deal with it........as a traumatic event.

Is he to have exceptions to the law.....just because of his name recognition??

 

Although off topic for a moment: "Trumpism is almost a "religion" for his supporters." Which is their choice ..... but they don't have the right to impose their "religion on others.

It's a bit like" those that criticize Baldwin for being anti gun. So what?? That is HIS choice. Just as those that love guns and have a collection oft hem........ are exercising their choice. The problem seems to be when one grump (or the other( ants to CONTROL the other group..........instead of just accepting their preferences for what they are. Gun owners don' have to worry about their guns being taken away. The country is saturated with guns.........and trying to change that would be impossible.anyhow. It is way too late... America cut its teeth on gun violence. ........and that is now in its DNA.

 

If you were to swindle people out of 25 million AND steal 2 million from a charity you sponsored would it be ok for YOU to just give the money back when you were caught?

 

We are guilty of appreciating someone that actually did good for Americans unlike the current disaster. The true cultists and the current branch Covidians.

 

Huh, you really think he should be punished...because... why? I find this kind of crazy. What would the purpose of it be? It's not like it would teach him a lesson. He's already been taught a lesson in the most effective and horrible way imaginable. Punishing him won't bring the woman back. What would the purpose be? All I see it doing is costing taxpayers money for absolutely zero purpose. I don't think his star power should have anything to do with it. I wouldn't want anyone put away for something like this.

 

Oh it is funny you compare Alec Baldwin killing a woman as were the gun his car. That is really ballsly.
I was as close as 4 feet from Vic Morrow and could not tell you his politics. As an actor, he hit me strange when he filmed a scene with an American who was upset that a German soldier died.

My aim on the forum is what I tell you it is. You are not hired as my spokesperson. I do not believe any actors got shot making the war movies Vic Morrow made. Sure the helicopter took his and the child's life when it crashed on them. But Vic was not piloting the helicopter.

I assure you Trump was not president when those events you mentioned happened. Trump owned over 500 businesses and overall his record is very good with employees and workers and customers. Even though he paid for the school paying off the students, I do not know of Trump actively running that school.

How do you like your love of a man that extorted Ukraine to get his way?

 

It should not mater what the situation is.......the laws must apply to everyone. If the law determines this to be an accidental shooting......... it should be dealt with accordingly... If he was being reckless and messing around......... that should factor in too. Many posters have described the safety rules that should have been followed. ........... and they ;make sense. Someone did not double check enough.........

 

Several reasons for the law to punish Alec Baldwin.
1. Reckless handling of a fire arm.
2. Aiming at a woman along with a man, killing her and injuring the male.