Teaching Progressive/Leftist Ideology in our Schools

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Separatism is separatism, and this Separatist garbage has no legitimate place in our classrooms being crapped all over our innocent children by edu-thugs.

    We are a self-ruled people. Our laws are made by our elected representatives. By what authority do the self-appointed edu-thugs presume to overrule both the parents and the law passed by our elected state legislature?

    Another man in dress and wig arrested filming young girls in bathrooms

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    We immediately sounded the alarm when the Edu-thugs started demanding that men be allowed into the girls restroom. When multiple girls were sexually attacked by a pervert using female clothing, the edu-thugs covered it up and lied about it.
    Dangerous in public, dangerous in our schools.
     
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  2. LangleyMan

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    3.5m school teachers, 100,000+ public schools, 10,000+ school districts ... I'm sure you can find racist teachers with screwy ideas. OTOH, teachers are probably some of the least racist people in society.
    If you want to check your kid for racist ideas, they almost certainly came from another kid. I might venture that kids with racist ideas they picked up at home or elsewhere may be pointing to ideas presented by the teacher to counter racism as racist. Again, teachers are some of the least racist people in society.
    You and @Zorro--teacher bashing time?

    Who in the hell wants to teach school with the sorts of unprincipled attacks we see coming from Trumpers these days? University STEM grads start teaching in Oklahoma for $31,606 a year to be called out as racists? Good luck.

    The Oklahoma law...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex,​

    ... appears to make even discussing affirmative action illegal.

    This section...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or vi rtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,​

    ... appears to make mention of reparations illegal. It's like erasing part of history.

    The law is about more than CRT.

    What are teachers supposed to do with textbooks that mention affirmative action and reparations? Are teachers supposed to stop students from accessing the internet because they might run see these topics mentioned?
     
  3. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Fake News. What the parents and the Representative Legislature have forbidden is teacher presented curriculum, which they have first hand knowledge of as their children were attending school from home, via zoom.
    If the teacher does not wish to comply with the principled objections of the parents to this racist curriculum, and State Law, they are welcome to leave. By what authority would a teacher presume to countermand the desires of the parents and the laws of the duly elected Legislature?
    Indeed. That you advocate discriminating against children or treating them adversely on account of their race or sex is EXACTLY the view that cannot be trusted in a child's classroom.
    That's right. NO one is going to indoctrinate OUR children is this filthy blood libel that their race or sex bears responsibility for actions of others that they had absolutely nothing to do with. They weren't even alive at the time!

    Our Constitution, that secures our Individual Rights, expressly forbids this sort of evil: "No Bill of Attainder".
    What is forbidden are these evil actions against children in the classroom, the label is unimportant.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

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    You have no clue how to teach anti-racism or what anti-racism entails.

    I had a class where students voluntarily, after a unanimous secret vote, split into racial groups (self-identified whites and everyone else) to examine race issues and come up with views on various issues.

    After they had their discussions and wrote down their group conclusions, I led my usual race issues unit. When we were finished, I brought out the conclusions of the groups. They pretty much concluded race should be openly discussed with everyone involved.
    The laws you Trumpers passed are about a lot more than CRT.

    The Oklahoma law...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex,​

    ... appears to make even discussing affirmative action illegal.

    This section...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or vi rtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,​

    ... appears to make mention of reparations illegal. It's like erasing part of history.

    What are teachers supposed to do with textbooks that mention affirmative action and reparations? Are teachers supposed to stop students from accessing the internet because they might run see these topics mentioned?
    More red meat? 3.5m teachers, 100,000+ schools, 10,000+ school districts and you come up anecdotal situations.

    I don't think Trumpers care about the damage they cause to public education that has a hard time attracting university grads with the absurdly low pay.

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    People who talked like you created a situation in my district where teachers with concerns could refuse to meet with some parents unless the interview included a union representative and an administrator. All your talk about "Edu-thugs" would be a red flag.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    @Zorro: Once again, you ignored what I wrote.
     
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    That answers my question. You ignore it so you can post red colored text.
     
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    We didn't cover news in school. We studied academic subjects. Sorry.
     
  8. dixon76710

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    What nonsense. From the foreword of "Not my idea", a book about "whiteness" for grade school kids.

    “White people have a very, very serious problem, and they should start thinking about what they can do about it . ."

    "Racism is a white person's problem"

    Followed with a full page illustration portraying "whiteness" as a contract with the devil in exchange for their souls, to win the privileges of whiteness.
     
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    Of course:
     
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    More Trumper nonsense. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    By then, after a quarter century, HUAC was part of history.
    You care. Touching.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    3.5m teachers, 100,000+ public schools, 10,000+ school districts. You come up with one-offs.

    So, where is your book a prescribed text?

    The Oklahoma anti-CRT law presents absurd burdens on teaching staff, as I described.
     
  13. dgrichards

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    Different part of the world, I guess.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    You think it's "news," fake or not? Egads.
    Why have you ignored this:

    Who in the hell wants to teach school with the sorts of unprincipled attacks we see coming from Trumpers these days? University STEM grads start teaching in Oklahoma for $31,606 a year to be called out as racists? Good luck.

    The Oklahoma law...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex,

    ... appears to make even discussing affirmative action illegal.

    This section...

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or vi rtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (f) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,

    ... appears to make mention of reparations illegal. It's like erasing part of history.

    The law is about more than CRT.

    What are teachers supposed to do with textbooks that mention affirmative action and reparations? Are teachers supposed to stop students from accessing the internet because they might run see these topics mentioned?

    I figure you won't address the concern.
     
  15. dixon76710

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    Did you have a relevant point? 2 teachers pushing "Not My Idea" refutes your claim.
     
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    No, it would only make advocating affirmative action and reparations in class illegal. .
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    Two teachers--that makes all the difference. :roll: :roll:
     
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    The law says it can't be part of a course (see above).

    Not even mentioning the issues is education malpractice.

    I always assumed my opposition to affirmative action and reparations should not be part of my presentation. Most teachers I know feel the same way. We're educators, not brainwashers.
     
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    No, two teachers just proves you wrong.
     
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    Correct. Advocating discrimination or reparations cant be part of the course. Got anything relevant to the post of mine you chose to quote and respond to? .
     
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    You're deliberately ignoring the wording:

    "No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:"​
    You're ignoring the law itself.

    I can't take you seriously if you're going to behave this way,
     
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    Oh geez, OK. I should of said -

    Correct. Advocating discrimination or reparations cant be "part of a course".
    instead of
    Correct. Advocating discrimination or reparations cant be part of the course.

    I DIRECTLY addressed the wording. The word that escapes your grasp is the use of the word "should" in the law.

    Dont go away mad, just go away.
     
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  23. Zorro

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    They push this crap in schools, media, every public communications platform and it's becoming 'progressively' more deranged.

    HAND-ME-DOWN TRAUMA:

    “‘My running monologue isn’t unique to me. Countless women across the country — maybe across the globe — experience a similar monologue. It results from a shared trauma, and it’s got a name: Patriarchy Stress Disorder, or PSD…PSD is the idea that the mental, physical, and emotional impact of gender inequality is a trauma that impacts woman and builds over time, and over generations.’ It is, we’re assured, a ‘collective intergenerational trauma,’ and ‘genetically transmitted,’ ‘passed down in our genes’ – albeit in ways left entirely mysterious. ‘PSD can impact anyone, including nonbinary people and men. Still, few people have heard of patriarchy stress disorder…’ You see, you haven’t heard of it, this new and modish ailment, for which no convincing definition is offered, beyond unspecified ‘systems of inequality’ and repeating the word patriarchy many, many times.”

    They folks need help, and it helps no one for them to be in a position of power and influence over public policy.
     
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    The law says the subject can't even be brought up. So, if the teacher uses existing prescribed texts that mention affirmative action or reparations, they're violating the law.
    The idea behind affirmative action is that someone should be discriminated against in favor of an identified minority. Oklahoma teachers are not supposed to even discuss the concept, for or against.

    Section 1.B.1 ... No teacher, administrator or other employee of a school district, charter school or virtual charter school shall require or make part of a course the following concepts:
    (c) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex,​

    What are teachers supposed to do with state prescribed textbooks that mention these issues? Who goes through the school library to make sure kids aren't exposed? Do we stop having students use the internet to look at history source material?
    Why do you support laws attacking teachers doing their job?
     
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    THEN WE SHOULD DISMANTLE IT AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER AND LESS DANGEROUS: Biden Administration Finds ‘Structural Racism’ Not Just Throughout Schools, But Government.

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    Confused Old Man "Fixing" Imaginary Problems While His Administration Sinks Under Real Problems.

    On his first day Biden ordered the entire Federal Government to root out all "structural racism". These reports are now overdue as no one actually does a damn thing but pose, spin and "message" in this Administration.
    One can never have too many commissions!
    Certainly Biden is quite comfortable with illegal.
     

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