White Texas Property Owner Avoids Arrest After Killing Moroccan Driver

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  1. Joe knows

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    After reading the article it’s way to early and not enough information to even remotely jump on this as a racial issue. How many articles point out race in black on black murder? Or on black on white murder? This assumption is a joke and has no assertion of racial motives other than the writer of the article.
     
  2. notme

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    I simply posted how it went on according to the OP, and my other source now.
    And you got nothing to dispute, but are getting emotional about it... and keep on replying.

    Personal attack
     
  3. Polydectes

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    There's nothing to argue your position is strictly culture war nonsense. The only reason I'm continuing to post here is to convince everyone else not to take your seriously
     
  4. Polydectes

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    But not according to facts good of you do admit that.
     
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  5. Kal'Stang

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    I didn't say it wasn't about guns. I said the charges are not. The charges are a generalized charges used for pretty much any type of category that they can fit under it. Including things like (in Texas's case) exposing your anus. (that's not a joke or exaggeration btw)

    You'll note also that they used the words "brandished weapons". Do you know what that means? It means that they used the guns in a threatening manner. Your claim: "Walking with your gun drawn is assault" is false because simply walking around with your gun drawn is not considered "brandishing weapons" (much less assault). As I said: "What is considered illegal is threatening people with a gun for no valid reason." If you walk around with a gun by your side, or holding it in a neutral position, it is considered "drawn" as it is not in a holster. And it is not illegal because you are not brandishing it. Feel free to read the link I gave for Texas's gun laws. You won't find any part of it talking about simply walking around with your gun drawn being considered illegal. I can think of only three states that might...MIGHT...have such prohibitions. California, Washington, and New York.
     
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    You say it's cultural war nonsense, but fail to argue how this doesn't fit the theme of white privilege.

    You say not according to "facts", but so far it's just hot air.
     
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    You said "Neither one of the charges that they pleaded guilty to is related to guns."...
    and they are most deffo related to guns according to your link. The end.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

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    Ever hear of bail? Its available to pretty much anyone that can afford it. Race has nothing to do with him getting out 2 hours later. All it means is he had the money to afford a lawyer and the bail.
     
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    the concept of white privilege is moronic culture War crap. I don't see a need to fit anything into any jealousy theme.

    IIf you want to be angry at the world instead of figuring out how to live in it that's your business.

    Right your entire position is pure hot air. Good of you to recognize that
     
  10. Kal'Stang

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    Whatever. In either case your statement "Walking with your gun drawn is assault" is false. Walking with your gun drawn is not assault. I provided you a link to Texas's gun laws. Read it. Educate yourself. And stop being an ignorant partisan hack.
     
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    The article reads that the cop say they do not know why the white guy killed a brown muslim, and so let him go. THAT is exactly what is odd about it, and where the racial issue comes to light.


    And it is getting worse. It ends up that the cops did know all along. The white thug called 911, saying he saw a his victim sitting in his car at the end of his driveway. So he grabbed his gun. But when he went outside, he saw the car was reversing away from him. So he had to ran after the car, to be able to shot the driver. -this is what he basically told- He also told that the driver had a weapon, hence he found the need to shoot. But they found out he lied about that one since the victim had no weapon. They knew all of that, and yet it took them 11 days for them to find a need to arrest the white thug over it. But after 2 hours, he was free to go and shoot the next unarmed person driving away.
     
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  12. notme

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    That it took the cops 11 days to come to the conclusion that he should be arrested for murder, falls perfectly well in the theme of white privilege. That he got out in 2 hours as well. He never saw a judge who mentions the amount of bail. Get real.
     
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    Why should he be arrested for murder?

    Prove murder that's incumbent upon you nobody else
     
  14. Kal'Stang

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    It is quite common for cases take days and even months before a perp is arrested. Even when they believe that they know the person should be arrested. Why? Because court cases are not won on beliefs. Or assumptions. Or feelings. And that applies to any person of any race. That you feel this is only applied to whites is nothing more than a leftist talking point.

    And yes, people get out on bail without ever seeing a judge. Happens all the time. In fact I deal with it every single night I work.
     
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    Sure. When Stanford university investigates almost 100 million traffic stops, and sees that black people systematically gets stopped a lot more but statistically got less infractions in the law compared to white people ... proving driving while black is a totally true phenomena.... you got claim there is no such thing as white privilege. Same thing with who sells and uses drugs more, but who gets arrested over it. Same thing that when people under the same circumstances get sentenced to jail do not get the same length to be there. At every turn, it's black people being at a far shorter straw = white privilege.

    I just laugh at your denialism. Your world view is coming to the end. We all know it.
     
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    sure... I'm right about them 2 lawywers, but "whatever" ... lol

    About your Texas gun law. It reads:
    How can you carry a gun?
    People in Texas must carry a handgun in a holster. The holster does not have to be a shoulder or belt holster.
    Before HB 1927 took effect on September 1st, 2021, people in Texas needed to have a license to carry a handgun and they needed to keep their handgun in a shoulder or belt holster.


    So nope. You're not allowed to walk around with your gun drawn.
    You're free to post me where it says they can walk around with their guns drawn.
     
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  17. Polydectes

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    Convince yourself of this conspiracy against black people however you need to I don't feed this insanity it's not healthy.
    Well women tend to get shorter sentences than men so is there female privilege or does this only magically work for your own personal victim narrative?
    It doesn't seem to be and here's the reason why you need me to check my privilege I don't need you to do anything.

    Your worldview depends on me performing some sort of struggle session to appease you but that isn't happening.

    The sad little victim narrative you are spinning has blinded you.
     
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    Because he admitted on his 911 call that he ran out of his house to chase a guy down who busy leaving, in order to shoot him.
    While previously the cops themselves had no clue why he murdered somebody. That should do.

    Exactly what are you missing here that gives you the idea that he should not have been arrested on the spot?
     
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    You go source this.
     
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    Conspiracy? It's scientific research by a high end university how driving while black is true. Human Rights Watch did the research about drug use/sell and who the cops end up fanatically arresting over it. And the fact that black people systematically get a much longer sentence for the same crime under the same circumstances is a statistical fact from the US government itself. All you got is your conspiracy that it aint true.

    You say it doesn't seem to fit the white privilege theme, but it remains just hot air without any explanation.
     
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    You do know that Stanford admits that there is flaws in their work right? LINK: Findings - The Stanford Open Policing Project

    And I find a flaw in it also when they admit that their test uses inferences. When something is inferred there is an assumption being used. That assumption might be based on logic, but it is still an assumption.

    I have yet to see a "test" that people use to proclaim that there is systematic racial discrimination exists actually prove it. They all use assumptions at some point or another in the tests. Even if they don't admit it. At least Stanford has the guts to admit that there are flaws in its tests.
     
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    How about those people pushing innocent people into racing subways in New York. Victims are predominantly Asian or White?
     
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    You won't find a source for it. Its simply common knowledge. Its how our system works. The only time people are arrested immediately is if they are caught in the act. IE: Someone, preferably a cop, is right there when the act is committed and will testify to that. And even then they are given bail until their court date. Whether or not they can afford that bail is another issue.
     
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    They acknowledge that, and build a system to counter that in what they call the robust statistical measure of discrimination: the threshold test.
    Thanks for playing

    You put in bold "infer" while I do not spot something wrong with scientists who do that. You're not qualified to argue against this. I do not care one bit about your opinion. You need to find a qualified source to argue that Stanford didn't do their thing correctly.
     
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    Ah. You claim something, but can't even provide some example of this common knowledge. Got it. Well I got an example. I recall that some black guy who was running, was being chased down by at least 2 cars with armed people in it, boxing him, and then kill him. The cops admitted that there was probably cause to arrest them for murder right there, but did not... causing the local DA to get arrested herself for failing her job. True story.
     
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