comprehensive plan for immigration control

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  1. Rampart

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    1.enforcement of existing laws prohibiting the hiring or employment of undocumented workers , with serious penalties including civil forfeiture of farms and businesses.

    2. tax on all funds leaving the country.

    3. enforcement of existing laws prohibiting welfare or unemployment payments to any undocumented person.

    4. appointment and deployment of sufficient judges and attorneys that undocumented persons apprehended in the united states can be held for hearing within 24 hours. if an unfavorable verdict is reached deportation is effective immediately.

    5. gang affiliation, possession of guns or drugs by undocumented persons shall result in a mandatory minimum sentence at hard labor. labor shall be primarily building and maintaining barriers to immigration. seportation immediate upon completion of sentence.

    6. study the borders to determine of existing barriers are sufficient, and to recommend improvements where warranted. all contravrs shall be bid and entered iaw all existing federal regulations.

    7. in every case, all persons detained shall be treated humanely and in accordance with current law.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt there are enough judges and attorneys on the face of this earth to accomplish that.
     
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    then we must learn to live with the situation. either way, this is not my problem.

    do you advocate deadly force? how many mechanized divisions do you think will be necessary to man a wall?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct. We need to stop them before they see judges or attorneys. We need law enforcement to prevent them from entering. That is why the wall is so important. When they enter in masse, they must attempt it at certain "choke points", There they are confronted by armed guard who turns them away. We have immigration laws that have been on the books for decades. Enforce them. It's very simple. The "Leftists" in this country knows they are overwhelming our judicial system and it is to their delight.
     
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    Finish the wall and concentrate at the choke points. Replace lawyers and judges with armed guard. It's simple. Do you think that mass of people we saw under the bridge in Texas a month ago faced ANY opposition?? It is sickening! What, do you find armed Cartel on the other side intimidating? We need armed guard facing the other way at choke points. Yes, deadly force is the ultimate power. It is used in crime prevention.......well duh!
     
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    how many armed guards do you think are necessary?

    there may be places where a wall is appropriate. the wall must be manned. how many?
     
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    I am not a statistician. I am a common sense person. The wall narrows entry down to areas much smaller than the gaps in our walls. I've seen those gaps. How many lawyers and judges are occupied in hearing what few cases are presented? How many people does it take to oversee these masses, document them and, put them up in hotels and entrainment centers?? ......and even shipping them to the interior of the Nation??? Take those numbers and make them available to guard our border. Most of that armed guard would be only temporary until the world realizes we are once again a Sovereign Nation of individual citizens! We do not cow tow to a United Nation Organization that has plans for No Borders and globalization. Make illegal entry a "deadly" occupation. It may require an army to put the Cartel that we have strengthened in it's place! Do it!!
     
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    The idea of a wall is so that they are slowed down so that they do not have to use deadly force or mechanized divisions.
     
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    Not only does it slow them WAY down, it forces them to choke points where enforcement deals with them!
     
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    A lot of this seems to come down to enforce existing laws. I thought you guys opposed that?
     
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    You do know that effectively outlawing transfers of money out the country (what your #2 is getting at) is one of the reasons that Venezuela jumped from the frying pan into the hottest part of the economic fire dontcha? It absolutely destroys foreign investment in your country.
     
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    existing laws have too many loopholes. simplification of the law is required. any agency found distributing public funds or resources to someone who is here illegally shall be fined (some ridiculous amount of money) and the individual(s) responsible will be jailed (for some ridiculous amount of time). No exceptions. This alone would fix the issue. I don't think people coming here to work is a problem.
     
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    Are we not all our American brother's keepers? If you lost a loved one to an illegal immigrant, would it then be a problem?
     
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    WATCH: Joe Biden says: "Whites will be an absolute ...
    https://caldronpool.com/watch-joe-biden-says

    In an interview in April, Macgregor said that the Biden administration is trying to "bring in as many people as they possibly can" from Latin America, the Middle East, Africa, and Asia.

    "The idea is that they have to bring in as many non-Europeans as possible in order to outnumber the numbers of Americans of European ancestry who live in the United States," Macgregor said.

    "I don't think there's any point in questioning it. That is the policy," he continued. "It is a deliberate policy to enact demographic change."
     
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    2 would violate several trade treaties.
     
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    This has a ring of sensibility to it, though I don't know how you would tax money leaving the country. The dilemma is that it is 180 degrees out of phase with the Democrat policy as instituted by Obama.
     
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    is there a "democrat policy?" the bipartisan policy is that the job creators get cheap labor and the campaigns are financed.
     
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    Great list.

    Especially number 1.

    I do disagree with number 2 though. Monies sent out of the country have likely already been taxed. Americans aren't to keen on being taxed on the same money twice.
     
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    Your headline does not match the content of your post.

    Did you read your own link?

    Also, there are a lot of red flags indicating extreme bias and potential manipulation of the facts via context distortion.

    I think you could benefit from this article...and others like them.

    https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/fake-news.htm

    You're welcome. Good luck.
     
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    There is most definitely a Democrat (with a capital D) policy on immigration which amounts to admit as many immigrants from South and Central America and Mexico as we can, don;'t worry very much about legality versus illegality, don't spend much time or effort checking potential immigrants out for fitness, provide them unassimilated locales and housing to live in spread all around the country, and allow them to vote as quickly as possible. If the latter requires citizenship then make them citizens as quickly as possible with as little muss and fuss as possible, or at the minimum do not force them to confirm their citizenship in order to vote.. I don't view corporatist support for cheap labor bipartisan even though many if not most corportists are Republican.
     
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    I'm sorry sir, I think it matches it quite well. Biden is determined to make Whites a minority and bring in as many minorities as he can. He feels the Democratic or America's strength is in minorities. Your article presumes what he says isn't quite true, even though he was videoed saying it.
    How to Spot Real and Fake News
    Critically Appraising Information

    It you think what I put up is fake, you might want to listen to Biden say it.

    https://www.cairco.org/news/video-biden-says-whites-becoming-minority-source-our-strength
     
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