Massie To Garland: Did Any Federal Agents Or Assets Enter The Capitol Or Incite Riot On January 6?

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Sure like this "Left-wing" publication you cited. As I have proven before when the Right get in an untruth, they simply try to cover it with more untruths.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2021/10/27/americas_not_back_its_gone_mad_555078.html
    America's Not Back, It's Gone Mad
    Conrad Black, American Greatness October 27, 2021
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    IOW, I hit the nail on the head and you cannot show otherwise.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    JFC…They were jailed for what they did, they were sentenced for WHY they did it. For the last f’n time motives matter.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    No in my words what utter nonsense for lack of anything of merit.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    OH you're talking about the judge who sentenced the guy to jail, in spite of the prosecutors request for home confinement, for something for which he was not charged nor given a chance to defend himself against, that unconstitutional act by that judge which the guy will probably win on appeal. Gotcha now :thumbsup:
     
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    Yeah yeah. Everything is unconstitutional in “convserotopia”.

    So someone was “not charged”, but thrown in jail, and found guilty and sentenced in a trial that never took place ?…..umm ok

    Reply with your proof
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Can a judge charge you with a crime and declare you guilty from the bench and not allow you a defense of the charge?

    What reason did the judge say she was sending him to jail?

    We fully discussed here until you decided to leave the conversation.

    Bluesguy said:
    Are YOU in some other country? Yes it was about obstructing a judicial process, what they are being charged with. We can only be sanctioned by the government when we have DUE PROCESS for what are the charges. It has nothing to due with Trump or what he said.

    This man was NOT charged with attempting to overthrow the government. NO ONE has been charged with attempting to overthrow the government. The FBI has found no evidence of an attempt to overthrow the government. There is no evidence this man wanted to overthrow the government. YET the judge was unequivocal that he instead of receiving the recommended sentence from the prosecutor for the crimes he pled to would send him to jail for attempting to overthrow the government.

    If you believe in the Constitution and our right to due process how can you stand for this?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...oters-sentence.592900/page-18#post-1072989823

    Let's continue there and you can show me where a judge can send you to jail for a crime you did not commit and were not charged with and were given no opportunity to defend yourself.
     
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    This kind of entrapment is not 'national security' and the judges should no longer accept that as a premise. Rather, entrapment is a controversial and legally divisive method, in which those who otherwise wouldn't commit a crime or only talk about(but never proceed) in the commission of a crime, end up getting encouraged, financially supported to do a crime.

    In other words, it is the creation of criminals by the FBI. And in this matter explicitly due to Democrat needs for the political consequences, it smells more and more like a Reichstag fire for President Biden.
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    IOW, I hit the nail on the head and you cannot show otherwise.
     
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    Yah it’s crazy how democrats said they election was being stolen and organized a rally the day of the certification….wait, that was all Trump
     
  11. omni

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    Oh cmon all the violence was antifa. I mean, no antifa have been arrested for the riot, but it was them. Trump supporters invaded thr capitol to protect our politicians from antifa.
     
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    They were there....

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    I am not sure if you know that or not. There are videos of the man urging on the rioters inside the Capitol Building. He's known ANTIFA. We know the FBI and ANTIFA were at the protest and even in the Capitol.
     
  13. omni

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    That was debunked months ago. He has no ties to Antifa, but the right needs someone to blame.
     
  14. Andrew Jackson

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    And...So What?

    What Exactly does the presence of those people (pictured) prove?
     
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    STILL Beating the Same Dead Horse?
    After 3 Weeks?

    When that Entire Misguided "Talking Point" was dismantled and discredited Weeks Ago?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ioters-sentence.592900/page-8#post-1072986395

    Still beating that Same Dead Horse?:bored:
    Wow.:smh:
     
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    I'm sure you have a valid source for that claim?
     
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    "FBI Director Christopher Wray said Tuesday that the bureau has no evidence that far-left violent extremists were involved in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol."
     
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    What is that someone's tweet? The dude has participated and led ANTIFA events.
     
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    John was kicked out of these events because he was provoking. He's an attention seeking bum who will try to turn any situation into financial gain. Here's what his brother has to say.

    Even the FBI director admits there is no evidence of antifa presence during Jan 6 riot.
     
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    Could Trump have fertilized the seeds with his words? Perhaps(though as Republicans will note and have noted, Trump also said to protest peacefully and as this thread demonstrates, FBI actors were at the scene before the speech itself ended, which will also no doubt play in for the defense.)

    Actually, if the defense wants to play hard ball, it can. If I were a lawyer for one of the defendants, I'd propose simply to the judge: This alone, is among what the prosecution is hiding under its false claims of national security, what else is it hiding? The Defense demands a full Brady Order, or otherwise a mistrial as the defendant has not been made available of all of the evidence against him.
     
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    All you've proven is an unimpressive ability to fabricate untruths.

    Let's take another look at what you had to overlook to prop up your heavy duty aluminum foil claim:

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    Articles from some of the most notorious LW nut job publications in America:
    New York Magazine, MSNPC, The New Duranty Times.....
     
  23. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has "Joe Biden's DOJ" prosecuted Ray Epps? How about the others individuals cited in the articles posted in the OP?

    No, "Joe Biden's DOJ" has not prosecuted those individuals, which is why Rep. Massie brought this to the attention of Merrick Garland and the American people.

    We don't know if this decision is political or just another in the long line of nauseating cases of Washington scofflaws protecting their own. That's what the congressman from Kentucky and the American people want to find out, and Biden's AG will have a chance to clear his name (or not).
     
  24. Talon

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    Good points.

    One federal judge has already struck down the government's lame "national security" excuse and ordered the release of videos to the public, so that tactic is already crumbling. Furthermore, any good defense attorney would avail themselves of the access a Brady order would provide.

    It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out...
     
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  25. Andrew Jackson

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    Adverse to FACTS?

    The TRUTH Hurts?
    Got it.:bored:

    Anyway, back to the OP Topic--Massie came across as a real IDIOT, who has very little understanding of what can be revealed involving ongoing investigations.
     

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