Literally just got denied medical service for being white.

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, this is not a thread about blacks, browns, yellows, whites or any other crayon in the box. This is about the people who decide who will and will not get medical care. Go to the first link below and hear how white people will be denied medical care (monoclonal antibody) because blacks and Latinos are high risk groups and will get priority. Now what makes them high risk is something that needs to be explained to me because to even be considered for an infusion a person, even a white person, already has to be china virus symptomatic (see below criteria). Today, right now, there are more white people in Texas than Mexicans, yet there are more Mexicans who are vaccinated than whites, but they're getting preferred treatment.

    Here is the criteria for an infusion. Being black or brown automatically qualifies a person over a white person with the same symptoms. A white person has to have one of the below conditions in order to get treatment, blacks and browns do not.

    This is what rationing and death panels look like and we were told it would never happen. Who the hell makes the decisions that make race a condition of medical treatment? Abbott needs to put an end to this ASAP.

    Next up is this gem. In order to get an infusion a person has to present a government issued photo ID. With the exception of proof of vaccine, we know how much the left hates ID of any kind. So how is it that a matter of life and death requires a government issued ID but merely wanting voter ID sends people off the rails?

    The third link below takes you to the North Central Texas Covid Infusion Center Info Sheet where you can find everything I mentioned.


    Link to video. It's the one with the cell phone on the kitchen counter.

    https://twitter.com/realDaveReilly/status/1459555435329966083

    https://twitter.com/realDaveReilly

    Link to info sheet with eligibility criteria and photo ID requirement

    https://t.co/3bEeqpyYJB?amp=1
     
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    You don’t have to be a racial minority to get this. This applies to high risk groups. Are Latinos and blacks at high risk for the disease? If so then what’s the difference between rationing healthcare for those that need it more?
     
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    And in one sentence you completely justify my opposition to universal healthcare.
     
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    Who denied you treatment? What are your symptoms? Are you vaccinated?

    High risk is high risk and that designation normally receives priority and should receive priority over…say, the stupid hoping for a free way out of their stupidity.

    Sickle cell disease should have at least provided a clue.
     
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    Err it just depends. Early on, there was a special emphasis in getting blacks vaccinated. I knew people who couldn't get the jabs even when meeting the health department guidelines just because they weren't at the magic age of 65. Pharmacies then were just refusing to vaccinate anyone under 65 regardless. I also know a person who was a coordinator for the black outreach program at the local hospital. I was able to put the two sides together so that non-blacks I knew who were desperate to get the jabs (and really qualified for them) were able to get them on an on-call basis whenever they had vacant slots to fill at these outreach events (usually at black churches) or had jabs they needed to get rid of because they were about to expire. I would give the coordinator a list of names and cell numbers so she could text them directly to get whoever could drop everything and come in. It was very important to them that no doses went unused because that could drop the number of doses they got the next time around. I could have gotten in much earlier if I had wanted, but I knew too many high risk under 65's who were desperate for them. She did get me in earlier than I qualified for really by putting me on the schedule for the first day of a mega vax-a-thon in appreciation for my help getting others in, but it ultimately only sped up my first dose a few weeks because the state opened them up to everybody over 18 or whatever earlier than planned.
     
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    Because race cannot be a factor in a virus. It's not a genetic condition. Furthermore, individuals are high risk due to comorbidities which are ACQUIRED, not genetic.

    Given that science, any attempt to triage according to ethnicity is pure racism.
     
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    Didn't read the first line in the eligibility criteria you posted, did you?

    "ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA
    Patients must meet at least ONE of the following criteria
    :"

    Do you know what "one of the following criteria" means? So, no, nobody is denying whitey medical services. Nice try, though.
     
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    Affirmative Action for medical care? Sounds about right. Just more legal institutional racism.

    White privilege my a$$ :) And it’s only
    Getting worse. It’s just sad that white progressive Leftists allowing this to happen, can’t see what minorities are going to do to their children and grand kids. If they think fighting for all this “equity” now is going to make things better, they don’t have a clue about human nature.

    And many black leaders aren’t even hiding it any more. The Rutgers professor is just saying the silent part out loud.
     
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    1) Acquired comorbidities can be avoided, so should not be factored in to preferential treatment. Only genetic accidents of birth should be factored in.

    2) Genetic accidents of birth like Sickle Cell Disease.
     
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    Irrelevant. Racial discrimination is being practised, and that's all that matters.
     
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    Do an Elizabeth Warren, declare yourself latino or black. Don't let anyone deny your truth!
     
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    Is this pushed by the federal government or is decided by the state?
     
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    No its not.
     
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    I think you should double check the requirements. A person needs to meet all of the lower listed criteria and then needs to meet just one of the conditions of the upper listed criteria. A white person not meeting the upper conditions will not be accepted for treatment, a black or brown person would.
     
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    Don't they have to suspect you have a mild case of Covid before you receive infusion treatment?
     
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    So your just going to ignore this.

    Additionally, patients must meet ALL the following criteria:
    • 12 years of age or older
    • Patient is symptomatic (not asymptomatic) and has mild to moderate illness as noted by all of the following criteria:
    o Is not hospitalized due to COVID-19
    o Does not require oxygen therapy due to COVID-19
    o SpO2% greater than 93% on Room Air
    • COVID symptoms present less than 10 days
    • If on oxygen chronically, is on same rate
    • Stable for home management/care
    • Document positive COVID test performed
    • Patient is:
    • Day 10 or less since symptom onset or testing positive.
    • If pregnant, cleared with OB/GYN Physician.
     
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    You’re missing it. A person has to meet everything you posted and then meet one of the conditions from what is listed above what you quoted. Being black or brown is one of the conditions that will get you treatment.
     
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    Don't worry, we're not missing what you're trying to do. It's very transparent.
     
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    So if those comorbidities happen to be centralized in ethnic groups who have a history of distrust in the medical community... then it makes sense as a way to get them on board.
     
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    Yes because the millions without and underinsured has presented us with a much better model. We’re rationing beds because of the lack of affordable healthcare.
     
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    What am I trying to do other than point out that people in the medical field are again making decisions based on race. If you see something else going on it’s probably because you see something going on that’s wrong and want to blame me for it.
     
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    Always is.
     
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    I thought I had you on ignore.

    ok, what’s wrong with my thread? Be specific. Don’t say ‘well, if you don’t know’ or try to avoid being specific. According to the chart I posted above there really isn’t a high risk group. Maybe you can explain why these two colors, black and brown, are at a higher risk and move to the front of the line. Better still, who in the world made that decision?
     
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    Not if it involves actual racial discrimination, it doesn't. There is never a good reason to go back down that dark road.

    Remember, you cannot discrimate on genetics (race), for reasons of behaviour (lifestyle choices leading to poor health outcomes). That's a patent absurdity. But then racism is absurd, so it fits.
     
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