Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Big Deal!:bored:

    Do you have a Reliable LINK for that "claim"?

    "His concealed carry license didn't expire until 2023. His CCL was revoked"

    ^I hadn't heard that.

    I am going by this:

    He said his permit to carry a concealed weapon had expired

    And, I found this (among trial commentary):

    One wonders if prosecutors offered to not prosecute him on a concealed weapons charge. His permit had expired, or was it revoked? That’s not clear at this time.

    So, once again, please post the source for your claim.

    The entire point is that he was carrying illegally...

    And, your Misguided Wall of Text DOESN'T refute that...

    Nice try...Still a FAIL...

    Better luck, next time...:bored:
     
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    Chronic Disinformation Syndrome.
    It's caused by over exposure to MSM/Fake News
     
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    Your clear statement of the very inconvenient truth Vs. MSM/Fake News.
    And the winner is ....
     
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    Shhh!
     
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    Actually, I never claimed that he wasn't carrying illegally in the first place. And the intention of my post was never to refute the fact that was carrying illegally. I was pointing out the fact that the scumbag committed perjury again when he claimed that his concealed carry license was expired.

    Furthermore, that "Wall of Text" is known as writing with paragraphs. Perhaps you and a lot of other folks here should learn how to do it. When I was a child, they used to teach all of the students how to write with paragraphs in elementary school. You would never even to make it to middle school if you couldn't write with paragraphs. You would flunk out. Nowadays, there are college graduates who never learned how write a paragraph.

    It's ****ing pathetic.
     
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    Totally not relevant

    So he wasn't chasing him, as what you lot are claiming.

    You're leaving out that Rittenhouse FIRST pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz, who raised his hands. And it's exceptionally clear why you lot are leaving this part out... since this is where Rittenhouse loses his right to defend himself and where Grosskreutz gets the right to defense, and was in his full right to gun down that active shooter... since he was being assaulted by Rittenhouse.
     
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    My point was that I called that kid a nazi. And the kid got busted getting drunk with his violent far right gang, singing their songs, showing white power signs. That proves the kid is a nazi. And the judge took that evidence and altered his terms of his bail, and so acknowledging what Rittenhouse was up to.
     
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    The expert said what he said. Rittenhouse first shot Rosenbaum in the hip. And the drone vid shows he didn't grab the rifle. That claim is from Rittenhouse who flat out lied about it. The next shot was in the hand, when he was holding it in front of him. And the next 2 shots, the 2 fatal shots, was when Rosenbaum, according to the experts, was horizontal. So Rosenbaum was lying down when Rittenhouse shot him in the BACK and in the head.

    Your idea it happened in 0.07 seconds, with the hand on the barrel while being shot in the back, is impossible.
     
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    Pray tell, what was Rittenhouse "up to"? See, this grotesque violation of our court system makes a mockery of it. There's no need to alter bail based on associations(first of all, I'd argue easily that qualifies under cruel and unusual punishment). Secondly, in what way would those associations(if they're what people claim to be) be germane to the case? Frankly, they wouldn't be so other than by political punishment.

    We have entered a time period in America, where politics has poisoned our courts and eroded our justice system entirely. Oh and orange man bad isn't anywhere to be found.
     
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    Rittenhouse was hit, ever so slightly, with a skateboard, and was sitting on the ground. That is what happened and how that 30 feet went to 6.
    Your idea that people are chasing each other while they have a QA going on, is just nuts.

    You're wrong when you mention that being 17 "and just a kid" is just some sort of an excuse. It only shows you agree he recklessly and cluelessly endangered others by going there with a loaded rifle in the first place. He had a goal, and that goal -at a bare minimum- is actively scare people with his armed presence. He has been caught on tape saying he wants to kill looters. And specifically on the recklessly endangering people... is one of the laws he broke.

    Well normally we find people who kick others in the head lying down, way too much. It's hands down, no discussion, in who is guilty of the injuries that you get from it. Rittenhouse made 2 shots at Rosenbaum while, according to the experts, was "horizontal"... and it was in the head and in the back... and those 2 were the fatal ones. Rittenhouse can say all he want that he was hit with a skateboard, but he needed zero medical attention for it. He got absolutely no mark or scratch on him showing he was injured by that "attack", what so ever. And his reaction to that, was just gun down who did that. So you can claim all you want about self defense when "attacked"... but something that obviously did not hurt at all is not a reason to think you are fighting for your life and had no other choice, and totally is out of proportion to go execute somebody over it. And then we got the thing of Rittenhouse who aimed his rifle at GrossKreutz who had his hands up. That's a clear case of Rittenhouse assaulting somebody else, and his victim than got the right to neutralize it.

    The vid excists.
     
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    The claim is that was that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum for trying to get his gun. The drone vid shows he did not got near enough to do that.
    And the expert said the first shot was in the hip, and the second one was in the hand.

    Rittenhouse aimed and shot Rosenbaum while he was lying on the floor, in the back and in the head... those were the only 2 fatal shots. That Rosenbaum was "horizontal" was according to the experts who looked at it. They also said that these were the fatal ones. These were the facts we got. So I care not about how many seconds were in it. Anybody can drop down in a split second, and when an other person kicks (or in this case shoots) you in the head... it really is clear cut who is guilty for the injuries when that happens. You simply do not kick the head of a person lying down. And Rittenhouse killed a person who was lying down, in the head and in the back.

    While the drone vid shows that Rosenbaum never touched the rifle, as Rittenhouse claimed. The vid shows that Rittenhouse turned around and immediately shot Rosenbaum. The still frames are used to portrait some kind of picture that Rittenhouse held his rifle down until Rosenbaum got too close and all of that. It's just nonsense. Rittenhouse heard gun shots, and the scared little kid, just turned around and immediately shot Rosenbaum because of THAT... and then finished him off when Rosenbaum was lying down.
     
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    It's simply a total lie that due to some kind of conviction that Grosskreutz wasn't allowed to have a weapon,... since it was just an expired license. All this is what you lot are doing is making lies about a victim in a way that KR killed a person whose life did not matter. While KR is a nazi.
     
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    Yeah I imagine you people are banging on jury tampering what's the only way you can get your perversion of justice.
     
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    No. The medical examiner said it was on or close to the barrel, but never said it had to be on the barrel. The medical expert said that Rosenbaum wasn't walking forward to the gun when he was shot, but fell. And he got shot first in the hip. So he fell being shot there, and then got shot in the hand who was raised up. You can explain that as a normal reaction of trying to stop the bullet with your hand. So the entire theme of the defense of that Rosebaum lunged at him trying to take his weapon, is a false narrative that you lot are parroting. The next 2, and the only fatal shots were in the back and in the head.... when Rosenbaum was horizontal. So that means he was lying down, unless he was floating from being shot.

    https://www.wpr.org/medical-examine...-injuries-killed-rittenhouse-shooting-victims
    https://www.wuwm.com/2021-11-10/for...tenhouse-shot-joseph-rosenbaum-at-close-range
    https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/11/09/rittenhouse-trial-autopsy-photos-rosenbaum-huber/

    While you lot are keen to eyeball the still frame of Rittenhouse with a lowered gun when Rosenbaum was there supposedly "lunging" forward, as if Rittenhouse was waiting for the moment that Rosenbaum was trying to get the gun. That did not happen. The drone vid shows that Rittenhouse turned around and immediately shot Rosenbaum, and he turned around on that moment he heard a gunshot. So it's rather clear that Rittenhouse killed Rosenbaum because a 3rd party was shooting in the air... and he killed Rosenbaum when he was lying on the floor.
     
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    1) the Q and A proves there was no chase
    2) the Q and A happened
    3) It didn't happen.
    4) Nobody lunged. Why the hell would GrossKreutz lunge forward while he got a gun? Not even Rosenbaum lunged.. he exerts said he fell when he got shot. How about you stop lying.
    6) I get it you support a nazi and you're eager to support your brothers out of some weird political motivation.... talking about back, Rosenbaum was killed by being shot in the back and head while 'horizontal". You normally do not support a guy being kicked in the head while lying down. But here you are making exceptions when people get killed with a gun like that.
     
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    The autopsy proves that Rosenbaum wasn't walking forward to Rittenhouse, but he fell forward when Rittenhouse immediately started shooting when he heard gun shots from a 3rd party. The autopsy also shows that Rosenbaum was killed by 2 shots, one in the back and one in the head... while Rosenbaum was horizontal. You normally do not support a guy being kicked in the head while lying down. But here you are making exceptions when people get killed with a gun like that.
     
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    Are you under the impression that if you lie enough your pedophile buddy will come back?

    Has there been anything that you have said in this thread that hasn't been a total lie?

    The best part is there is video that shows that you are completely lying.. what's the point? You just trolling at this point?

    Video shows gg lunging forward and pointing his gun at Kyle, gg admitted to doing that under oath, and you = "never happened"

    Someone that does what your doing here is either a troll, a compulsive liar or mentally challenged.

    Either way there is not point in debating someone like that..
     
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    Its not my idea. If you aren't going to watch the testimony, then I suggest you stop making up events you have no clue about.
    The shots are on the video. They timed them. The prosecutor stated that fact. But you thought I just made it up out of thin air? Which means you don't know squat about the testimony in the case. As per usual you are just doing what you always do.
    Give biased opinions on an event right from the jaws of leftist media outlets without a clue whats going on.

    Its already been proven in court, Rosenbaum ran down Rittenhouse, cornered him, and grabbed for his gun. Those 4 shots happened in .07 seconds as Rosenbaum was lunging forward for Rittenhouse. All 4 shots entered the body BEFORE he even hit the ground as he fell FORWARD.

    the 3rd shot was in the head and the 4th went past his head into his back as the path of the bullet was from the head through his back towards his torso. So you can stop all the fake claims about shooting someone in the back while he was lying on the ground or you can look foolish by continuing that fake claim.
    Your choice.
     
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    Criminal prosecutorial misconduct is now common and seldom punished.
    Has the "outraged" judge sanctioned the prosecutors? ;-)
     
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    All of this is false.

    You have no evidence he is a nazi, you are just lashing out emotionally rather than rationally. The kid didnt get busted doing anything but hanging out with people who are normal, he never flashed a white power sign either.

    Your entire premise is based on falsehoods, lies, and misinformation.

    This kid is a hero.
     
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    He has demonstrated multiple times when it comes to this case he isn't interested in the facts.

    He is convinced of a falsehood around Kyle being a nazi and will do and say anything to justify it.

    Par for the course with the far left.
     
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