Something to keep in mind as Kyle's defenders try to rationalize his defense.

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Not when those people are a bunch of violent rioters attacking him for no reason.

    The cl;aim he was an active shooter is an eggregious lie and has been from day one. He only fired in self defense. He posed an obstacle to an ongoing riot. The attack on him was hatred for that simple opposition. This is also the motive of those on the left wishing for his conviction. It is clear to all that his actions were in self defense but the left cannot allow ANY opposition to their actions.
     
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    You are not presenting any truth to obfuscate.
     
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    What if you are defending yourself against someone who has trafficked you? You are physically attacked by this person for refusing to have sex, and you end up shooting and killing them. That's the case of Chrystul Kizer in the same district that freed Rittenhouse on self defense. Kizer faces life in prison.
     
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    if the person doing the shooting was killing random people I could, but those people watched the pedo threaten and chase kyle before attacking him. For extinguishing a dumpster fire.

    What’s the word for being the total opposite of heroic?
     
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    He had a right to both you are wrong
     
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    Nope.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putting aside your assumption they were violent rioters (none of them had committed a violent act equal to Kyle's), claiming he was being followed for no reason after he had just shot a fellow human being is incredibly deceitful.
     
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    Over a billion dollars of BLM riot damage isn't the truth?

    Over $50 million in damage in just Kenosha alone.

    Damage due to rioting, unrest in Kenosha tops $50 million
    https://www.kenoshanews.com › news › local › damage-d...

    Sep 9, 2020 — Damage to property tops $50 million ... In speaking with Heather Wessling, vice president of economic development for the Kenosha Area Business ...

    Let's see if you can bring yourself to face those truths.
     
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    Can you face this truth?

    At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political ...
    https://www.theguardian.com › world › oct › americans...

    Oct 31, 2020 — Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day.

    14 Days Of Protests, 19 Dead - Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com › jemimamcevoy › 2020/06/08

    Jun 8, 2020 — Topline: Though curfews are lifting and protests remain predominantly peaceful, the death toll from two weeks of demonstrations over the ...
     
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    They were violent rioters that is fact not assumption so no you will not put it aside. Measuring it on some scale of level of violence compared to Risstenhouse actions is evasion and a dodge. Regardless of how violent it was in COMPARISON does not negate the fact that iut was a violent riot and you are evading and being dishonest to dodge that fact.

    He shot a fellow human being in justified self defense. They were not following for aa legitimate reason but instead to influct retribution on him
     
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    Yes you are wrong that is fact and you know it
     
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    Even if they were chasing after Kyle in a heroic attempt to stop an "active shooter"(which they weren't) they were WRONG. Kyle wasn't an active shooter who posed a threat to anybody. He was a person who had just lawfully defended himself against an attacker, and he was running to the police to turn himself in.

    This was just proven in a court of law, so, even if the three people who attacked him after he lawfully shot the first attacker had the best of intentions(they didn't), they were STILL IN THE WRONG.
     
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    Its a crime so.,,
     
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    Not sure why this thread even continued after this.
    Maybe to add that there are people writing things such as the Kyle is white (he is only 1/2 white) and that he killed 3 black people (the child rapist, partner abuser and illegal concealed gun carrying felon) were white... and the felon is alive and still lying about the incident.
    These lies may have just culminated in this:

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/11/22/waukesha-holiday-parade-evacuated-gunshots/

    If so, I hope those publishing these lies face justice for inciting this violence.
     
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    The truth being In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity.
     
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    What? He had just killed someone. In the minds of those who were trying to subdue him he was fleeing the scene of a murder.
     
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    I'll acknowledge that truth.

    The fact remains that a mere 7% of demonstrations connected to the movement managed to do well over a billion dollars worth of damage.

    Can you acknowledge that simple reality?
     
  18. Lee Atwater

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    See post #1.
     
  19. Creasy Tvedt

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    They were wrong.

    He was fleeing the scene of a legally-justified act of self defense. This was just proven in a court of law.

    What they thought in their minds when they attacked Kyle Rittenhouse was WRONG. They were mistaken, and some of them paid dearly for their mistake.
     
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  20. Lee Atwater

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    I never denied it. It's part of the point I'm making.
     
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    Absolutely. But the person who chooses to get involved. To chase after the person better know the circumstances before getting involved or he just may get two rounds center mass from a legal shooting
     
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    Nope, you are wrong that is fact and you know it.
     
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    And yet there you were trying to downplay over a billion dollars of rioting damage as "93% peaceful".

    Your puny mind tricks don't work on me, Jedi.
     
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    If the person just murdered someone, yes, then it would be heroic.

    That's not what happened thought. It wasn't a murder, it was legally-justified act of self defense, which made the attempts to subdue him less heroic, and more a matter of plain stupidity.
     
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    What’s incredibly deceitful is ignoring all the evidence to cling onto a false narrative.
     

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