Wholesale Prices Rise Halfway Through November

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    I can only repeat - this is only a pitiful beginning.
    Although I must admit, I did not expect such a rapid development of events.
    What is happening in the United States repeats the events of the collapse of the USSR with amazing accuracy.
    Hyperinflation is rapidly developing in the United States before our very eyes. I think that next year we will see an even sharper rise in prices. In the currency approach of the US monetary policy to the monetary policy of Zimbabwe.
    As for the standard of living, the standard of living will soon copy that of Zimbabwe.
    The US is slipping into hyper inflation.
    As a consequence of this process, the dollar will soon cease to be the main means of international settlements ...
    And as soon as this happens, the US economy will cease to exist and the US will plunge into the Middle Ages.
    You can bury your head in the sand like an ostrich, persuade yourself that everything is fine, but this will not change reality.
    And given the fact that there is almost no real economy in the United States, the Middle Ages would be an optimistic scenario for the United States.
    Most likely, the United States will resemble a semblance of "Mad Max" life.
    P \ S:
    Dog hairdressers, lawyers, waiters, etc. have nothing to do with the real economy.
     
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    Jeebus. it's not a good time to buy a used car and civilization is collapsing

    One would almost think there were people who wanted to see that happen.
     
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    This is what the Democrat voters wanted. If not, why did they vote Democrat?

    Was it only because of mean tweets? There were no positive reasons to vote Democrat. At least if your goal was for the regular folk to prosper. If it was to injure the common folk, then vote Democrat because that is what happens.
     
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    there were, they are called Democrat voters. If they did not want this, then why vote Democrat?
     
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    Among many other reasons I voted Democrat because the main Republican was flat out TELLING the Sauds and others to raise prices

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...se-u-s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4
     
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    price of fuel October 2020 compared with price of fuel October 2021? Was it less or more in 2020?



    the difference= full Democrat control in 2021

    post all the links that you want as they have no bearing on what happened. The facts remain, Democrat votes have consequences; always harmful.

    Sadly, I can't thank you for your Democrat vote. I only have disgust because you helped harm people. How could you do that?
     
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    Prices rise also in Europe... some are caused by shipping costs and some are influated by Covid-19
     
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    Prices are rising in the EU, in the US, and in Russia ... and around the world because the contradictions between the social nature of production and the private form of appropriation have grown.
    In other words, because capitalism in the modern world has outlived its usefulness.
     
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    Capitalism is the only way to go. Bums live like bums and achievers EARN. That's the most natural way to run things. Excellence is rewarded so motivated folks strive for excellence. Bums don't care and don't try and get exactly what they deserve. Its a great system. It gets ruined when bleeding hearts think bums should get free stuff. I'm talking about lazy, worthless bums here... not good folks that are physically, emotionally or mentally challenged. Folks with such disabilities should be assisted. Their shortcomings are not their own fault. But bums? Whole different thing.
     
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    do you mean for example career students who think the rest of us should pay their student loans from high priced colleges?
     
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    Yup. That qualifies as a bum.
     
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    It's especially funny to hear that from you. You, who lived all his life at the expense of society (for the military is supported by taxes of people who produce real values), talks about a parasitic lifestyle. This is really funny.
    Your whole job was to kill people. At the same time, those people whom you either killed personally, or helped others do it, did not attack you or your loved ones. They were to blame for the fact that there was oil (or other resources) on their territory. And the greed of the oligarchs is above human lives.Sometimes people like you kill complete strangers in order to control trade routes. This is what you did.
    But now you are puffing out your cheeks and telling about the alleged "laziness" of those who, in the conditions of savage capitalism, found themselves in a difficult situation.
     
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    Parasites live for free. They do no work. Soldiers work like dogs 24/7. Socialism isn't about where the money comes from, but what you do or do not do to EARN IT. The PEOPLE pay Soldiers. So do your customers at your shop in the mall. By the way, its a lot harder to be a Soldier than a civilian. Civilians do the same job every day, year in and year out. Few surprises. Soldiers deal with an unpredictable enemy that does all sorts of unexpected stuff. So when you talk about "real values", I would suggest that the robust, flexible, ready-for-anything Soldier has more "values" than the bored, same old same old clerk, salesman, secretary or meter reader.
    By the way, the military only does what it is told to do. So if you don't want the military to control trade routes or worry about oil, don't tell them to do so. They only do what civilians tell them to do. Have a beef? Write your Congressman. Or your President... if you can find him in a lucid moment.
     
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    You are talking about something else. A soldier can work as much as he wants, but the question is whether he creates material wealth, which is the criterion of economic efficiency. Obviously not. Just like an artist, singer, hairdresser, policeman, lawyer .... etc. All these people live off what create a grain grower, a miner, an oilman, a steelmaker, a tailor, a shoemaker ... all those who create a real economy have produced.
     
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    You are obviously very young and still a student. A student cares about things like "economic efficiency" and "creating material wealth" when discussing socialism. In the REAL WORLD... TAXPAYERS view socialism in one way: Getting rppied of to buy free stuff for bums. When you have a mortgage payment, kids to feed, a car to pay for... you couldn't care less about "economic efficiency". You care about PAYING THE BILLS. And a socialist system bleeds you dry to pay SOMEONE ELSE's BILLS.
     
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    One example. Socialist USSR. In the USSR, there was a punishment for parasitism.
    Article 209 of the Criminal Code established responsibility for different forms of parasitic existence - engaging in "vagrancy, begging, parasitism, leading a different parasitic lifestyle."
    Punishment from fine to imprisonment up to 2 years.
    But one must take into account the fact that there is no unemployment under socialism. Anyone can find a job according to their taste and preference. For example, all (100%) college and university graduates were provided with jobs in their profile. Once again, all 100% graduates. In addition, all (100%) university graduates were provided with free housing.
    And let me remind you - in the USSR, any education, including higher education, was 100% free.
    But what you call "socialism" has nothing to do with real socialism.
     
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    LOL... "FREE" college? LOL.... NOTHING IS FREE! Others see the fruits of their labor taken from them, the ones that ERANED IT, and given to freeloading bums getting "FREE" education. You think college professors don't eat? They don't have kids? They don't need a roof? Think classrooms just magically appear? LOL... FREE my great Aunt Sadie!
    Want to know how "full employment" works in communist countries? I was in Germany when the Iron Curtain came down. An Army buddy of mine invited me to join him on a short trip across the border into Czechoslavakia. He wanted to show me how things worked there. He said we'd buy a tube of toothpaste. So we stopped in a small shop, a Czech version of a "7-11". We went to the counter and asked for tooth paste. The clerk smiled and told another clerk who got the item. He passed it along to another clerk that put it in a bag. He passed it to another clerk who took our money and gave us the bag. FOUR CLERKS to do the work of ONE. No store in the west would stay solvent doing that. But in a communist country where the government sucks up all the resources then doles them out as they see fit, that's how it works. Everyone gets something. But there's no room for an entrepreneur with a dream of building a business. No reward for a dream to excel and get ahead. The government sucks up all the resources and doles them out as they see fit. Whether you have a dream, excel, want to get ahead... makes no difference. THAT is "full employment" in a communist country.
     
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    You talk about economics from the point of view of primitive capitalism. But the socialist economy is structured differently. Under socialism, there are no career restrictions for anyone.
    All free social projects are funded by the state. The state under socialism earns, but does not live off the nogs.
    You need to read the works of Comrade Lenin and Comrade Stalin to understand this issue.
    I advise you to start by realizing what capitalism is and the process of its development. To do this, read Lenin's work "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism." And only then, you will be able to write deliberate comments.
     
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    I am much better at watching what actually happened than reading the dreamy stuff of idealogues. Russians were starving. So in the last Soviet Five Year Plan, the government gave 5% of the arable land over to the farmers that worked it for their own use. That 5% outproduced the other 95% as the farmers sold their food for their own profit. They were incentivized by PROFIT. You need to lay down the academic tomes and pick up some historical accounts of what actually happened.
     
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    Monetary policy has nothing to do with capitalism. When a country decides to inflate its money supply by adding more to it, the result is a decline in the value of the currency. That occurs no matter the country or the economic system. Same wealth, more rubles, less valuable ruble. Hope that helps you understand one of the basics of economics.
     
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    And giving free stuff to ums, the definition of socialism, is te most damaging way to flood an economy with a flow of inflationary funding.
     
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    Yes -- and those people are called liberals and Biden supporters.
     
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    What I understand about Stalin and I would hope you do also is that he was the greatest mass murderer in history.

    Here is how his economy worked with respect to food.

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    Some people stay in the library to learn about life. Others go out into the world and EXPERIENCE life to learn about it.
     
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    I was being facetious. It is ridiculous to suggest that civilization is collapsing because it's not a good time to buy a used car.
     

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