Mount Sinai Long Beach hospital fired 72 healthcare staff due to vaccine mandate

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  1. Steve N

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    Hey libs, are you even close to admitting to the damage you’ve done? First it was Obamacare making healthcare unaffordable for millions of people because it just might save one life. Then you fire healthcare workers whose job it is to save lives. I remember when libs used to say ‘if it saves just one life.’

    Now you’re firing people who you can’t and never will be able to prove they endangered anyone.

    Liberals say healthcare is a right. Liberals just cancelled that right and libs are silent.

     
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    Idiotic decisions bring about idiotic results.

    Example number 8567 to never vote Democrat.
     
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    Omg they have to travel 5 while miles now!!! blame the selfish staff who won’t get their shots.
     
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    Exactly...
     
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    Good ole bootstrappers. It's a shame what this virus has done to America and I don't even mean the lives lost. I mean we've lost our values as a country.
     
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    Agree, what sort of health professionals care that little about their patients that they won’t get vaccinated?
     
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    When the vaccines themselves are looking to be of questionable value against the virus?(Well, Austria is now aiming for the first 100% fully vaccinated campaign. We'll see how that goes.). Again, to me, democracies can no longer argue for their validity if they choose the same methods they derailed against.
     
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    Things will get even tougher very soon.
     
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    Wrong again Steveo; under the law, the employer sets the terms and conditions of employment; the laid off workers had a choice. Either get the vaccine or get laid off for health and safety reasons (The employer has an obligation to maintain a safe workplace for it's employees). Those who exercised their right not to receive the vaccine will not go to jail or be prosecuted, but under labor law they can be terminated if the employer deems it necessary or they don't meet federal/state standards.

    Look at it this way, sometimes you have to sacrifice for what you believe in; those who decided not to get the vaccine exercised their rights because they felt very strongly about the vaccine for whatever the reason. They'll find other jobs; I know where I live a lot of the fast food businesses, retail and lawn care companies are having problems finding enough people, so they will be able to work if they so choose. It's not the end of the world for them. As for the hospitals and EMS field, they are already replacing the laid off workers and should be able to open most if not all shuttered hospitals within a short period of time.

    You say liberals have cancelled the right to healthcare. That is a false statement. A hospital cannot turn you away if you need healthcare regardless of what any political party says; furthermore, there is more then one hospital in the city of NY. In fact there are at least a couple of dozen hospitals in NYC/NYC area, so if they need medical care they or the ambulance might just have to drive an extra mile or two to get to a hospital but they can still get medical care. As a friendly suggestion, next time don't try to embellish upon a news story like you did.

    Incidentally, I know liberals maintain that healthcare is a right, however conservatives appear to be mostly silent on this. In your opinion, do they feel that healthcare is not a right?
     
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    Yeah blame the selfish people who won’t take an experimental drug with no understanding of the long term consequences.

    So selfish of them... not you... them. *roll eyes*

    There is a simple solution to this problem. There are millions of Americans who won’t take the vaccine that need medical care and tens of thousands of medical staff that won’t take the vaccine and can provide that medical care. Why not use part of the hospital to treat unvaccinated patients and allow the non-vaccinated medical staff to work there?
     
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    You used common sense, that's not allowed in the Biden Administration.
     
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    Well no the answer to that question is that if you allow that, it’s a disincentive to people to get the vaccine. And they believe that punitive action and punishing you for not taking the vaccine is the way to go. We know this because of the vaccine requirements to visit stores, the vaccine mandates that cause people to lose their jobs and now restricting your ability to access medical care unless you do what they say.

    It’s a pattern. And it will only get worse if they get a win in court.
     
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    Wait till January. Things should get interesting.
     
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    And we are told hospitals are overburdened.

    This seems like it might be 30% of the reason.
     
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    If someone were smart they could pop up small (maybe even temporary) hospitals near these other hospitals and open them up to vaccinated and unvaccinated patients with staff who were willing to treat both.
     
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    INFORMED healthcare workers do that.

    And they do that in large part because they've seen all the damaged bodies caused by the shots, AND because they can plainly see the damn shots don't work.
     
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    Yes and the sugar plum fairy is real and will make everything sweet again :roll:
     
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    No principle in these people.

    They say healthcare is a right, yet try and strip it of those they don’t like.

    They said voter id is racist, yet make you show I’d and require it to get a Big Mac.

    Not an ounce of principle.
     
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    EMS is hurting for medics and emts right now.

    The shortage is so bad there are units taking 45 minutes to respond.

    Its so bad that companies are sending their vehicle service techs to emt school.

    I know nurses making 10k a week because of the demand.

    I know firefighters who are getting forced and working 3+ weeks at a time.

    There are massive shortages.in ems and Healthcare right now.
     
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    Its the lefty way.
     
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    Really? Not where I live. EMS services have not been negatively impacted. All shifts are covered.

    Really? In some rural department or in a major city or suburb? Can you provide a link?

    Again, can you supply a link to what you maintain?

    If they are making 10k weekly I'm sure they are not complaining. Pay your medical personnel properly and you won't have to worry about them for the most part failing to get the vaccine. Those who've been laid off are being replaced with new hires (at 10k per week its not surprising there are lines of medical personnel signing up) and any shortages are just temporary.

    Most firefighters I know work 52 weeks per year, excepting vacation, personal days, days off.

    Really?? have all the hospitals shut down or curtailed all services? For some strange reason where I live, the hospitals are all largely unaffected and open and seeing patients as the need arises.
     
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    Ah I get it, you don't see it so its not a problem elsewhere. Party of science.

    Greater Southern California.

    Santa Barbara to San Diego.

    22 years in EMS, and its never been this bad.

    https://www.cbs8.com/amp/article/ne...over/509-7dd08968-06fc-48b0-83b2-ac199a5d03c5

    https://abc7.com/amp/los-angeles-hospitals-la-hospital-waiting-times-covid-19-coronavirus/9358924/

    https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ort-some-patients-with-low-chance-of-survival
     
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    Dems only pretend to be the party of science.

    They care nothing for science unless it is used to push a narrative they favor.

    They dont care about the middle class, unless they are compliant with their demands and ideology.

    They dont care about POC's unless they stay on the dem plantation.

    Its astounding so many actually believe they are the party of science and tolerance.
     
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    Yeah they say they are the party of science, and then say science, math, and logic are the tools of white supremacists.

    Smug the entire time.
     
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    You should be aware that two of the three links you posted are almost a year old and have nothing to do with with employees being laid off. The other link discusses an ambulance company that will be taking over in January to address longer waiting times in San Diego. Jesus man, read before you post a link.
     

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