Some things you need to know about the Ahmaud Arbery case

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  1. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    Nah he’s just a petty thief... so far. If someone had whooped his ass a long time ago, he might not have been that and he might still be alive today.
     
  2. Hollyhood

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    The Democrat narrative is BS. We know they're omitting facts. To me, this boy died cause the cops didn't apprehend him, and he should have been taken into custody long ago.

    However, I'm not going to fight the decision. Two guys see a black guy running away in their neighborhood that has been victimized by crime, and their gut correctly indicated that he was the perp. Yeah. I get it. On the hand, they saw a black guy running, and their confrontation over an alleged crime they couldn't guarantee was committed resulted in the death of a man. An argument could be made that they pursued him only cause of race, and the altercation could have been avoided if they had followed via car while calling the police.
     
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    LOL, reading this about made me spit out my drink. Pray tell when and where were the "good ole days".
     
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    Also like the thread in Global forums, mostly speculation and 100% on the side of the convicted.
     
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    The United States and pre political correctness.
     
  6. StillBlue

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    Those are definitely sneakers and the video shows him leaving the building empty handed. The OP is fake.
     
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    If you cannot confirm it through news cycles it is probably disinformation
     
  8. arborville

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    What rule is there that you can only jog within ten blocks of your house? I can see someone being curious about a house or new section of houses that are under construction and don't forget that he took nothing from the construction site. Indeed, what would there be to even take on foot? I see his visit to the construction site as someone who was out for a jog/walk and thought, 'Here's something interesting to look at', then went on his way. He shouldn't have been there but I don't think he had any intention to steal anything.
     
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  9. Hollyhood

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    Let's see... the Ds are siding with the pedo professor, pedo that attacked Rittenhouse, D sex offender that conducted a terrorist attack in Wisconsin that killed 5 women and 1 child, and tons of other violent criminals that they released from prison or jail, but the left has to complain that the Rs are defending the convicted white dudes that just wanted apprehend the guy they thought committed a crime in their neighborhood cause the police won't do anything to stop the victimization in that community.

    Again, I'm not the defending the convicted in this case. I think the case was strong against them. I'm merely uninterested in this one case of homicide by three white guys when BLM guys have committed over 60% of murders and 70% of mass murders in this country this year, shattering the numbers they put up in 2020. BLM guys are singlehandedly increasing the murder rate in this country, and blowing up the interracial violent crime reports. It's about scale.

    The homicides of AAs by white people is not something that concerns me when the black and white murders are 10 times more likely. The murder rate for AAs is 7-9 times more likely to commit murder, and 2-3 times more likely to be shot by the cops. There's a stat saying whites are 3 times more likely to be fatally shot by police. AAs are 5-8 times more likely to shoot at police, and 3-6 times more likely to fatally kill a police officer than white people. Those numbers on shootings of police don't take into account the last 6 years in which there's been many more instances of AAs attacking police. So I'm honestly kind of pissed that white are so much more likely to be discriminated against by the police when they are so much less violent.
     
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    When I go to your link, I see no video, only two still pictures. Neither appears to be in or around the under construction home that you cite. One is merely a road, with something lying in it, which could be a hammer, but so what? Arbery is not in the shot. The other is just a picture of someone's feet, wearing what appear to be high top sneakers. Again, there is not even evidence that these are Arbery's feet but, if they were, it would prove nothing other than that he doesn't have proper footwear. If one must download an app in order to view the supposed videos, I have no room on my phone for any new apps. I'm not cyber-savvy, but is it possible for you to view the video and then, if not post it, at least capture a screen shot which shows the hammer in Arbery's hand? Otherwise, this link is meaningless, to me. And if there was video evidence of Arbery trespassing, which had been reported to the police, prior to Arbery's murder, the McMichaels would have had an almost incomprehensibly incompetent defense council, to have not presented this evidence.

    For your part, you do not do a very good job of presenting evidence, either. You allege that the McMichael home is 10 to 12 miles from Arbery's, but do not provide any source for this information. May I suggest you post a MapQuest map, or the like, showing the route between the two addresses? I am, frankly, a bit suspect that you even know the Arbery's address.

    Likewise, you give no source for your claims about Arbery's past criminal record. One would think you should have realized that this contention required some validation.

    So, to recap, before I even bother to address your ridiculous argument, your allegations are lacking any verification:

    1. of the distance between Arbery's & the McMichael's home (was this also something that their defense was too incompetent to point out?);
    2. of Arbery being in the property under construction;
    3. of that having been pre-reported to police;
    4. of Arbery having had a hammer;
    5. of Arbery having the criminal record you purport.

    Oh, and you mis-state the Georgia "citizens' arrest," law. The arresters have need to be personally aware of evidence to suggest that a crime had been committed by the person who they are apprehending. As the 911 call demonstrated, their only "evidence," against Arbery was that he was running down their street; FYI-- this does not suffice.
     
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  11. Hollyhood

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    I thought about that argument. It would work for me cause I am a construction manager that actually likes to look at the work, but I'd still never go inside the site. Everyone, especially the brotha, knows it's trespassing. And there's plenty to steal at a construction site, especially on the inside of the development. That's where you store copper, fixtures, aluminum sidings, wires, televisions, etc. It's always been an issue for contractors throughout their careers. The criminal sells all that metal at a recycling center. Some of the fixtures for personal home builds can be very valuable. You go to the site during the day to see what you want to steal, and then you come back at night to take the materials and fixtures. That's textbook. Cause the criminal can use your kind of explanation to justify the trespass. The fact that he ran away when someone confronted him is a pretty big tell that he wasn't there to look around, but it could have something to do with his mental illness.

    The criminal history is irrelevant to the defense. However, we know Arbery had a record that includes carrying a handgun to school and obstructing a police officer from arresting him, as well as a burglary investigation that was dropped. He ran away anytime he got in trouble. It's really only ****** leftists that see his actions in the very positive context that you've painted. I doubt any D sources your read are going to actually inform you of the criminal histories that will damage the character of their politically favored victim or defendant. MSNBC and CNN will literally ignore terrorist attacks committed by the Nation of Islam, BLM and Antifa.
     
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    Yes, it's super speculative.

    I've never seen you play the role of prosecutor here before. You're usually more oriented towards individual rights. :angel:
     
  13. truth and justice

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    No one confronted him other than those 3 in the trucks. He began running straight after leaving the building.
     
  14. Hollyhood

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    Yeah. Doesn't look like he was confronted. He casually walks down the street before entering the house under construction and then runs out the door while a witness is phoning the police from across the street. He was obviously spooked by something.


    I don't think the shooting was justified, so I never had any reason to argue. I'll concede.
     
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    There is determined effort from the left side of politics to alter the perception of any event like this to political advantage. This is outright propaganda, distorting truth to imply a totally different image. It's socially a disaster, in that nobody can depend on the law actually working; we are on the verge of mob-rule in these things, and it's not only tolerated but being promoted and used by people in offices of trust. They get support from what used to be a bastion of truth- the media, who has abandoned their journalistic ethics for ratings.

    I think a wise person should believe very little of what the media says, and even be cautious of what they see in videos, because they will edit them, show only what makes their story- and half a story is usually a lie. They don't care, you cannot for a moment assume they do- and they will indeed tell you selected facts that by themselves support the opposite of truth- if it serves their purpose.

    JUSTICE is under serious attack in the land of the free.... by those who do not want you to be free.

    These are people who tear down statues of Thomas Jefferson and erect statues of George Floyd. What they think and believe is garbage- but very dangerous garbage.
     
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    There is no hammer. The home owner testified that nothing was stolen.

    Let's say he did steal a hammer. That's not grounds to perform a citizen's arrest. Are we going to start having people arresting each other for littering, noise complaints, double parking expired tags?
     
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    I may be mistaken but I thought that security video wasn't taken the same day.
     
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    Actually it’s a felony and in that state you can chase someone for a citizens arrest for a felony but not someone for a misdemeanor which trespassing is. Moot anyway because it’s supposed to be contemporaneous to the crime.
     
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    It sounded like from that video Arbery was continuing to attack McMichael even after the second shot.
     
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    Are you serious?? ! If someone was killing you by shooting you, wouldn"t you fight back?? If some maniac strangers were chasing you and trying to trap you, and pointing a shotgun at you while threatening to blow your brains out
    your fight or flight instinct would kick in ... He tried both to survive and would have tried neither if they had left him alone.
     
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    Not attack protect himself from a reasonably perceived threat ... Saying attack suggests that he was the aggressor instead of the victim and that is incorrect. The convicted murderers were the aggressors.
     
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    You are mistaken and your post is based entirely on fake info. I highly recommend that wherever you got that you tag it as fake news for comedic value only. They lied to you.
     
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