Ethan Crumbley’s parents facing involuntary manslaughter charges

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Totally, crist.
    Unreal.
     
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    Jesus Christ! what a couple Monster Parents this kid had.
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    Totally and Agreed.

    The Parents being on the run has just ratcheted up this intrigue (exponentially).

    And, these "Parents"?

    A Very Wise Person Once Said:

    I would have a greater respect for the Institution of Parenthood, if the qualifications to become a Parent were greater.

    ^Words to live by.
     
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    I don't think the DA's charges have much to do with when the text message was sent. Did the DA say something about the timing of the text message in a press conference or something? What's your source for this claim?

    My source for "My understanding is that the text message was sent after the shooting, when the mother learned that there had been a school shooting at her child's school" is here:

    “Ethan don't do it”: Parents of Oxford High School suspect sent messages during shooting (fox2detroit.com)

     
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    My girlfriends Kid did the same crap, said he was going home, get a gun and come back and kill everyone picking on him.. He never made it home for two plus years.

    Where was the narc's when this turd was talking crap?
     
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    Pretty well useless if locked away while home invasion.. My handgun is in arms reach, most of the time anyway... Then again I have no kids run around either, if I did I'd not need a gun, they call them ankle bitters for a reason, right?
     
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    How about this red alert then:

    The day of the shooting, a teacher found a note on Ethan Crumbley's desk that alarmed her so much she took a picture of it on her phone, McDonald said. The note included a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, "The thoughts won't stop. Help me," she said.
    Another section was a drawing of a bullet with the words "Blood Everywhere" written above it. Between the drawing of the gun and the bullet is one of a person who seems to have been shot twice and is bleeding, McDonald said.
    "Below that figure is a drawing of a laughing emoji," McDonald said.
    Also found on the note, according to McDonald: "My life is useless" and "The world is dead."
    James and Jennifer Crumbley were "immediately summoned to the school," McDonald said. A counselor met with the parents and the boy, who had altered the drawing by scratching out the drawings of the gun and bloody figure, along with the words, according to McDonald.
    The parents were told to get their son into counseling within 48 hours, McDonald said. Neither parent asked their son to see the gun or "inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him," according to McDonald.
     
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    Yup, AL Agreed.
    Hard to imagine that (in the runup to the charging decision on the Parents) the cops didn't have them under 24/7 watch.

    They don't strike me as nominees for Parents of the Year.


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    Well there it is. The pro Trump angle. Well done and it only took til post #12
     
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    A ridiculous charge.

    Hopefully goes no where.

    Liberal anti gun nonsense at its finest.

    The moment liberals learned this couple was pro Trump they became determined to destroy them.
     
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    Thanks, it's the least that I can do.
     
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    That's my impression too. This is about political warfare for them.
     
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    I understood the sweeping generalization fallacy. The other side uses it as well.
     
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    Because he's a CHILD, and still under their auspices. He doesn't get that kind of freedom or privacy at 15.
     
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    Is he a minor? I think that's the crucial difference.
     
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    It was his gun. They bought him for christmas...
     
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    This has happened precisely BECAUSE parents aren't being held accountable. They're slacking off in all the wrong ways, because the permissiveness of Progressive culture and the enabling of apathy and laziness has permitted them to remain toddlers-for-life.

    The reason your experience was different, was because when you weren't out hunting/fishing/etc, you were being responsibly parented, and probably had a strong sense of boundaries. You likely parented by stable mature adults, who were role models for self-discipline and emotional stability.
     
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    That tells you everything you need to know. They cared more about their own comfort, than the welfare of their child (and the many lives under threat).
     
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    Well said. I should have said, "lowering parenting standards and suppressing liberty is a recipe for disaster."
     
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    He's being charged as an adult. So which is it? They either gave a minor access to a gun, or he's an adult. Can't have it both ways...
     
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    Statement from Parent's Lawyer:

    "On Thursday night we contacted the Oakland County prosecutor to discuss this matter and to advise her that James and Jennifer Crumbley would be turning themselves in to be arraigned. Instead of communicating with us, the prosecutor held a press conference to announce charges.

    "The Crumbleys left town on the night of the tragic shooting for their own safety. They are returning to the area to be arraigned. They are not fleeing from law enforcement despite recent comments in media reports."
     
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    If I were the prosecutor, the way I would try to argue it is that while he was consciously aware of the fact that his actions would lead to death and destruction(proven by his own notes which will be admitted as evidence), he could not legally acquire the weapon of choice if not for the parents. Thereby removing the seeming contradiction.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    The other parents? How are they or his classmates responsible?

    The school should have sent him home, with a suspension lasting as long as needed to get the kid some serious counseling. Public schools need much better guidelines on how to handle such situations.

    The parents are culpable, and I'm very glad to see them charged. Four teens are dead because of their negligence. I hope they and their son are convicted and do some serious crime. It will send a message to other "gun culture" parents, maybe get them to secure weapons in their home, and maybe NOT purchase a deadly weapon for an obviously disturbed kid.
     
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