Jesus doesn't want you to get the Vaccine

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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot to criticize about Islam but it is far less racist than Judaism and Christianity so that is worth a gold star.
     
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    The covid vaccine is the most dangerous vaccine yet. It's also had the least amount of testing. No the number of people involved in the test doesn't improve the test in any statistical after a certain point. It's also the length of testing and continuous boosters that needs checked. The chances of something happening may seem low, but it won't feel that way when your child draws the unlucky number.
     
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    Yes, rather than forcing children to face possible long term consequences of the vaccine, I'd rather let your three time booster grandpa take the very very small risk of dying from covid.
    Children should have the same opportunity of life that adults have already had and they should not be risked to protect adults.
     
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    If that’s how you fee, then that’s how you feel, but what is this have to do with Christianity and morality?
     
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    You are choosing to put one person at risk to protect another. That's immoral.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Well, you can't force people to want to live.

    Maybe the world could benefit from a mass die-off of humanity. Some scientists predict that humans will become extinct within a couple more centuries because of the lack of genetic variation. Humans are almost identical to each other. And it seems that the species is becoming too stupid to live. So, if people continue to refuse to get vaccinated and die from the virus that might be a good thing for all of the other animal species. That might give chimps the room they need to evolve into more intelligent creatures.

    BTW, have you noticed that the Christians that want to get a religious exemption from taking the vaccine have never read their favorite religious fairy tale?

    1 Peter 2:13-16 (CJB) = "13 For the sake of the Lord, submit yourselves to every human authority — whether to the emperor as being supreme, 14 or to governors as being sent by him to punish wrongdoers and praise those who do what is good. 15 For it is God’s will that your doing good should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Submit as people who are free, but not letting your freedom serve as an excuse for evil; rather, submit as God’s slaves."

    The national leader says to get vaccinated. Obey him, it is God's will.
     
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    ACTS 5:29 29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
     
  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for proving that Peter was a liar.

    Exodus 22:28 (CEV) = "28 Don’t speak evil of me[a] or of the ruler of your people."

    Titus 3:1-3 (CEV) = "3 Remind your people to obey the rulers and authorities and not to be rebellious. They must always be ready to do something helpful 2 and not say cruel things or argue. They should be gentle and kind to everyone. 3 We used to be stupid, disobedient, and foolish, as well as slaves of all sorts of desires and pleasures. We were evil and jealous. Everyone hated us, and we hated everyone."

    Romans 13:1-5(MSG) =
    "13 1-3 Be a good citizen. All governments are under God. Insofar as there is peace and order, it’s God’s order. So live responsibly as a citizen. If you’re irresponsible to the state, then you’re irresponsible with God, and God will hold you responsible. Duly constituted authorities are only a threat if you’re trying to get by with something. Decent citizens should have nothing to fear.
    3-5 Do you want to be on good terms with the government? Be a responsible citizen and you’ll get on just fine, the government working to your advantage. But if you’re breaking the rules right and left, watch out. The police aren’t there just to be admired in their uniforms. God also has an interest in keeping order, and he uses them to do it. That’s why you must live responsibly—not just to avoid punishment but also because it’s the right way to live."

    "1Timothy 2:1-3 (MSG) = 2 1-3 The first thing I want you to do is pray. Pray every way you know how, for everyone you know. Pray especially for rulers and their governments to rule well so we can be quietly about our business of living simply, in humble contemplation. This is the way our Savior God wants us to live."
     
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    Lol, sure.....Islam is just ssssuuupppperrr diverse ..... :rolleyes:.

    There's just so much to criticize I've never heard you do any of it...
     
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    Unlike American Christian churches, Islamic mosques do not discriminate based on race or ethnicity. However, the Ahmadiyya sub-sect that was founded in India by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in 1889 can not go on the Haj because the other sects regard them as heretics. There are Ahmadiyya mosques all around the world. The sect was established in the US around 1920 and its first mosque in the US was built in Chicago. There is about 48 Ahmadiyya mosques in the US and Canada has about 27.

    Islam is very diverse with two large denominations and lots of branches and sects and sub-sects. You can Google them as your homework assignment.

    Just because a person calls himself a Muslim doesn't mean that other Muslims regard him as one.

    From a practical matter, Islam is the closest thing to Old Testament Judaism there is. Other than Muslims making a big deal about Mohammed, their basic beliefs are very similar to Old Testament Jews. That is probably because the Jews helped create Islam. Thank goodness the world doesn't have to cope with the Old Testament Jews. The modern version is bad enough.
     
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    I suggest for your homework you Google non-denominational church.

    Or you could be really brave go walk into any random church and find that you would be accepted.

    You speak of discrimination but your anti-Semitism came through loud and clear
     
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    People are not made perfect. Many people have genetic problems. So this assertion is false.

    As far as your second assertion (microchips) what is your evidence for this claim.
     
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    This thread is reverse psychology.

    It seems many Christian sects do whatever it is that is the opposite of what people outside their sects tell them what they should do.

    So, hopefully they will spite me and everyone else telling them they should get the vaccine and get vaccinated!
     
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    This post owns.
     
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    I just HAVE t ask.........How did Jesus communicate this ?? Why on earth would he want folks to get sick, and allow the pandemic to continue ?? Why would he want folks to ignore the one measure we have created to deal with this continuing horror story?y???

    Why would he be THAT cruel?? IF he is as spiritually advanced as is believed by some.

    It makes NO reasonable or logical sense............(let alone spiritual )
     
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    Perhaps he shares a small modicum of ideals with Muhammad?
     
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    This is just obscene .. are you seriously claiming that Jesus would want to force medical treatment on people .. on the basis of your mistaken beliefs?

    Why would folks use a product with a relatively high risk of harm to themselves .. that doesn't do what it is purported to do .. stop = significantly reduce Transmission. ? What Horror Story have you been reading ?
     
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    Because the satanic gen therapy aka the 'jab' kills you
     
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    that is not the point.

    How the heck does anyone KNOW for a FACT what Jesus wants regarding the vaccine?? They did not even have vaccines in the time h e lived........

    Why would anyone use Jesus as an argument against vaccinating ?? No one can speak for him.

    If folks don't want to vaccinate...........don't do it...... No one is forcing anyone to do anything.........but something about responsible behavior comes to the forefront.


    But given that Jesus wanted humanity to help each other............ suggests he would be for it........as getting vaccinated is about helping oneself and others at the same time.
     
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    Exactly .. so why would you claim what you did about the feelings of Jesus towards the vax ?
    certainly not you .. what we do have is the teachings of Jesus .. which depict Jesus as someone who would clearly be against the vax

    This is just obscene - are you Blind ? .. people are having their livlihoods taken away for refusing the vax.. in what planet is that not force ?

    Then you finish with some vague reference to responsible behavoir .. obviously referencing the vax .. but what are you referring to ..not vaxing children .. as doing so is completely irresponsible .. and you have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    Not sure any topic on here is worth getting so worked up about .........

    You have your views and that is fine. .
     
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    I know my views are fine .. is your views that are not .. thinking taking someone's livlihood away is not force.. Stalin would be proud.
     
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    It might be a bit more complicated than that. There has been a significant wave of "resignations"............as folks re re evaluating their priorities , and finding different ways to balance the work/ home activity.


    How would YOU have handled a contagious virus that has gone pandemic world wide?? This is a PUBLIC health issue that affects everyone. It has killed hundreds of thousands........ so what would YOUR plan of action be if you were in charge??

    Ignore it?? use whatever measures we have at our disposal to contain it?? Let nature take its course........ and let peple infected with the virus keep working??

    It is pretty clear what folks don't want to do as precautionary measures...............but WHAT are they WILLING to do.........if anything??

    There are some things that everyone needs to do during a pence mic..........and it has nothing to do with dictatorship. It has to do with our collective health and well being. How can folks even consider working if they are sick with an infectious disease?? The health system is being over taxed ... workers are exhausted.

    This is not a political issue.........it is a PUBLIC HEALTH care issue. (that has been badly politicized by folks with their own agenda)

    As far as my views They are rooted in human Health and logic . ......and what is reasonably best fo humanity. Not on politics or religious beliefs.
     
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    First off .. lets get somethign straight - you running around crying Public Health Care Issue - giving no qualification of what this even means because you don't understand what you are talking about - just spouting memes you heard somewhere - .. does not justify taking someone's livelihood away.

    How is this person who has had covid - but is unvaxed - has no comorbidities nor is Obese or has pneumonia succeptibility - a Public Health Care Issue ? such that the Gestapo is justified in talking away this person's livilihood ? just like You know who did to them "unclean" ones..

    What did this person do to you to you .. for you to wish to treat them that way ?
     

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