How’s ‘shutting down the virus’ going, Joe

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    ME? Emotional?? How about responding to the rest of my post instead of cherry picking one part of it that threw you into a temper tantrum and now you're using that as a lame excuse to stomp away from the rest of my post??

    Clearly you have nothing substantive to offer to the discussion. Unfortunate.
     
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  2. DaveBN

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    Could be valuable in attempts to measure harm/aid caused by one political persuasion or another.
     
  3. gfm7175

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    Suppressing the treatment options of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, for starters... Siphoning taxpayer dollars from them and putting those dollars into the pocketbooks of Big Pharma for more starters... MANY people have died who could have been saved had they been given ivermectin early on instead of hospitals causing them to die so that they'd get government money from it.
     
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    If you want people to respond to your posts in good faith, you should act in good faith. You’ve been building up straw men and knocking them down in every response to my posts. At this point I just don’t care to engage with your content anymore.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    I did. Yet, you are choosing to run away from civil discourse rather than engage in it. The pool got too deep, apparently...

    "Strawman! Strawman! Strawman!" I openly invited you to correct what you claim is a "strawman", yet you have chosen not to do this as well. Again, the floor is yours.

    Pissing and moaning is not an argument. **** or get off the pot.
     
  6. DaveBN

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    Oh yes, doesn’t get much more civil than this.
     
  7. Collateral Damage

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    Do you feel this would type of 'conclusion' would cause more divisiveness, or help unify the country?

    Anecdotal, but I also know a number of Democrats who have declined the injection, based on introducing foreign substances. I also know quite a few Republicans who have received the injection.

    So any type of conclusion drawn from such a study does more harm than good.
     
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    What wasn't civil about it?

    The argument being made is that your advocating for more masks and more vaccines, even though we've already done those things and they haven't worked since COVID is supposedly "still a huge problem", is arguing for insanity.

    You haven't addressed that argument yet, choosing to whine about this and that instead. You have also yet to "correct" my "strawmanning" of you. For a THIRD time, the floor is yours...
     
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    I certainly agree that it could cause unnecessary divisions. But I would also argue that it could be a good lens through which to analyze the policies and attitudes of our political parties and how that is impacting our Covid response.

    I agree with your anecdotal experiences. I’ve witnessed the same. I don’t think statistics should be used to impugn or praise any individual. They’re just a way of understanding trends.

    I think an argument could be made for either.
     
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    And how do you propose Biden oversee the testing/vaccinating of people entering the country 'illegally'?
     
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    Those that are caught/stopped/incarcerated, should be not only tested if they going to remain in this country under claims of asylum, then they also receive an injection, if that's what this administration feels is necessary. They are that point 'migrants' and subject to the same as anyone going in and out of the country.

    Of course, it doesn't make it mandatory, nor open that door, to force those already here legally to comply to a mandate. Call it already being grandfathered in. ;)

    What do YOU propose?
     
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    So if one were to use other personal factors for such a study, to be used for judging the societal impact of actions, what would be the first and foremost factor?

    I'll be nice, and let you know it's a trap, one that you set yourself. The moment you start using that kind of data for those purposes, you are creating a us verses them mentality.
     
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    I would like for all immigrants entering the country (to live) be tested and then vaccinated.
     
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    How do you propose the current administration address this?
     
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    By not lying.
     
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    Not lying about what, specifically.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up on the trap, though I’m not certain I would have known how to walk into it. (Were you going to 13/50?)
     
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    If one is going to use a factor like 'political affiliation' (assumed) as defining for certain actions, then one must also use other defining factors for other sets of actions. Comparatives as such don't usually work out well for anybody, but since you feel it would be useful, you have to take all factors into consideration.

    13/50 is very common, and way overhyped. Taking a group and 'painting' it as all people who meet one characteristic as having only the characteristic you wish to paint in a negative light, underscores what society has become today. Divisive, and for the most part, wrong a majority of the time.
     
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    Maybe just maybe they shouldn't have attacked red states and instead done a promote campaign with all those covid funds that are still in the bank. There are a few great commercials paid for commercials by the state of texas that are really good. If I wasn't vaxxed it would get me thinking. Every day I come here, and you have lefties attacking the right over this, uh this isn't a left/right thing, you want evidence look at the numbers the most not vaxxed are african americans.
     
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    Uh you can't test an illegal before you ship him and drop them off in a state? You can order quarantine for Americans reentering the country but not illegals? This is all pretty simple common sense.
     
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    these are new virus's, more contagious

    the good news is looking like the latest one may be more contagious, but less deadly

    Biden has done all he can to get people vaxxed, what more do you think he should do
     
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    Apologize to Trump for accusing him of doing nothing. Beg American voters for forgiveness.

    Then resign.
     
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    the American voters gave the right's Messiah the boot
     
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    DEEP STATE....George Soros.....Jewish Space Beans.....Bill Gates.....RINOS.....Communist China......The Clinton Foundation.....Critical Race Theory.....Hugo Chavez Voting Machines....ISN’T IT OBVIOUS????
     
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    Looks like Trump’s Warp Speed vaccine is crapping out....Trump really screwed the pooch on this one!
     

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