Abortion is in the constitution.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why?


    ...and no one is promoting abortion....and women's lives are valuable, yes, I know that...some here don't...
     
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    Even the woman that will never get to exist?
     
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    Uh, duh, if she doesn't ever exist she didn't have a life :roll:...any other issue-avoiding squirming you want to do ?


    no one is promoting abortion
     
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    My you have a very keen sense of the obvious.

    We get it the only woman's lives who matter to you or those who are born screw the rest of them scrape them out of the womb and throw them in the trash.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, duh, if she doesn't ever exist she didn't have a life :roll:...any other issue-avoiding squirming you want to do ?


    no one is promoting abortion




    I get it, the only "lives" that matter to you are those that aren't born and screw the rest of them...

    Notice how I didn't have to use the word "we" as you did....I don't need a backup.


    No one is promoting abortion as you claimed.
     
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    You must have me confused with some other poster I never said what you are saying I claimed.

    Such mistakes would be far less likely if you did not butcher the quote function on a regular basis
     
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    A slave can do pretty much anything he wants to with his body; that's autonomy.
     
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    I suggest you work on your reading comprehension.
     
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    Pregnancy is a uniquely feminine condition. There is no parallel to it. Therefore, it is logical that females deal with what concerns being pregnant.
    In any case, people who pay taxes for bombs that kill children have little credibility criticizing women who choose not to carry to term.
     
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    I suggest you work on YOUR reading comprehension. Try using an English language dictionary if the 9th Amendment is too difficult for you to understand. SCOTUS loves people like you.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Can you refute the post of mine you quoted ?
    ""A person becomes a slave when their bodily autonomy is taken away, their body is no longer theirs...that is slavery.""

    I see you don't know what slavery means..

    Were you aware that slaves were legally bought and sold and raped and beaten and murdered and bred like cattle? That's not bodily autonomy
     
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    Sorry, confused you with another poster of the same ilk....Anti-Choicer's blather is so alike with the trite statements.
     
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    Your post all sound alike.
    Nothing but petty personal jabs at other posters.
     
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    Ya, because I post facts not emotional claptrap..
     
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    Lol.... :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Trump's thoughts are irrelevant IMO. Who gives a damn what Trump thinks? Why do you bring him into the conversation?

    Otherwise, the only reasonable comment is why a woman would have an abortion. The bit about orgasms seems a bit absurd to me, indicative of a desperate position.

    RAPE is the most obvious of reasons, for this male, but I'm sure that if you asked women in that situation they could provide more realistic answers.
     
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    I didn't bring Trump inotnthe conversation I used the verb to "trump" do you not know what that means?

    It's quite true what was the woman seeking to do when she got pregnant?

    And what percent of abortions are due to the woman being raped. And since there are widely available highly effective drugs to prevent a preganacy rape is not the justification for all the other elective abortions for convience sake.
     
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    Sorry I was rushed at the time....see my response.
     
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    No that is not what I said. The purpose of the Constitution is to PROTECT rights, not grant them. The Constitution does not and cannot grant any rights. It can only grant powers and privileges. A pregnant woman's rights are protected by the Constitution the same way as if she weren't pregnant.

    You continue to try to separate the fetus from the pregnant woman. This is why you are thoroughly confused. Biologically the fetus is being grown by and is a full integral part of her body. It cannot grow and survive without the mother's body for the same reason a cancerous tumor cannot grow and survive outside the body. The fetus is an integral part of the woman's body same as her brain, heart, liver, kidneys and placenta (when pregnant), which are also all living tissue as long as the mother is alive. The Constitution protects the mother's rights (her entire body), it does not protect her heart or her kidneys separately and independently. I know you will never understand that concept no matter how many times or ways I explain it to you.
     
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    So the let's hope the pro-abortion side stop claiming it does. That being said here from our founding document

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.



    Of course I do because they are separate human beings, separate organisms. The baby in the womb is NEVER a PART of the mother. Just as a baby suckling her mother's breast, she is not a part of her mother. It is NEVER and integral part of the mother, that is absurd. The womb and placenta exist in order to keep them SEPARATE. The baby in the womb is not an organ of the mother, more absurd nonsense.

    The Constitution protects our fundamental rights we inherited at creation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
     
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    I don't know who is "pro-abortion", certainly not me.

    No need to quote anything to me from our founding document, I know it by heart. I even have a quote as my signature in case you missed it.

    No they're not until birth (or another event) separates the fetus from the host mother. This can only happen by miscarriage, abortion, C-section or naturally.

    Neither is a cancerous tumor yet it's just as much part of the host as is a fetus. It can't come into existence, grow or survive without its host, yet it's living tissue.

    I'm not going to go around in circles explaining it to you. Not only is the Constitution not your strong point but neither is basic biology. Like I said, you'll never get it.
     
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    It has its own brain independent from the mother. It has its own heart beat. It can kick and move without any stimulus from the mother. At around twenty weeks it feels pain even if the mother does not. It is a separate being.
     
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    So is a cancerous tumor. Some even grow hair and teeth.
     
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    Do you support abortion as it exist in this country? If not what exactly do you have against abortion that makes you anti-abortion.



    False again as I have explained you are talking biologicaly nonsense. Post me something from a scientific source that claims the unborn baby is part of the mother. That it only becomes a separate individual after birth.

    I'm not going to go around in circles explaining it to you. Not only is the Constitution not your strong point but neither is basic biology. Like I said, you'll never get it.[/QUOTE]

    A tumor is a part of the person, it is a malignant growth of their own cells it is not a separate human being. Geeez where do you come up with this stuff?
     

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