Taliban splinters - many join ISIS-K to support anti-China Uyghur fighters

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  1. US Conservative

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    NEW DELHI: The Taliban is clearly splintering. While the group is trying to win favour from China, their foot soldiers and field commanders are calling for "jihad" against the Chinese government, citing oppression of Uyghurs and other Muslims in the restive Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR). They are blaming the top Taliban leadership for not defending their Xinjiang Muslim brothers, who are under the quash in China.

    They are also angry with China for blocking a Quran app last month. This app is "trusted by more than 25 million Muslims around the world" and they use it to read or listen to the recitation of the Quran, remind the time of daily prayers, determine the direction of the qibla, watch live coverage of Hajj rituals from Mecca and Medina. According to an Iraqi news website, almashareq.com, these Taliban fighters have joined the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISIS-K) "to free Muslims from the tyranny of the Chinese government by rising up against the fascist regime."

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    Taliban leaders made a deal with the devil when they made deals with China and allowed it to have influence in Afghamistan.

    This disillusioned the islamists some of who are gearing up to engage China for its suppression of Muslims there.

    I say let them fight, and steer clear.

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    There is no unity in that organization and that's their strength. Clans align themselves with what's best for their clan. Americans coming over and ending their oppression and installing weird western norms, start corrupting the people, massacre around on a wedding, and they flip flop right back without warning. They are simply too nationalistic towards their own clan that has causal links with other clans that matter. It makes the entire country a hornet nest that remained a total mystery for 20 years for the US and allies. And they pulled that same trick nobody gets with the other super powers that thought they had a shot. They were all humiliated.
     
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    Yeah it's gonna be interesting to see how China responds if there are attacks conducted against them. China has not engaged directly in military actions against a foreign country since Vietnam, and they lost.
     
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    China would be as successful in Afghanistan as Russia and the USA were. All the technology and industry in the world doesn’t amount to a pile of **** when faced with an insurgency that is willing to die for its beliefs. The Chinese military may be well equipped, but it is inexperienced. Taliban fighters have been playing this game for centuries.
     
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    Yes what you say is true.

    The difference is what will Chinas ROEs be?

    Laxer than the Soviets?

    They won't be stricter than the US.
     
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    While I agree with the sentiment that watching the ChiComms try to play 'civilize the barbarians' with ISIS would in theory be very satisfying in a vacuum, its important to remember, for every commie and bandit that kill eachother, there's a lot of just regular folks stuck in the crossfire.
     
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    Sure. China "lost" the Vietnam war. Meanwhile.....

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    I do believe the country is called The Socialist Republic of Vietnam, massive red flag with a little star.
    That should hint that it's rather communistic, because China "lost" the war. lol
     
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    Not a history fan I see...

    China attempted to invade Vietnam shortly after the US left there. China was fairly quickly beaten back, but declared 'mission accomplished' anyway. The invasion, as well as some supposed war crimes commited by China, is still a point of contention for Vietnam and its people.
     
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    Yes it's true. But I can't stop them, and they won't stop them.
     
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    You realize the country as a whole did not become communist until the US withdrawal.
     
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    I don't know, but I'm sure The Taliban's ROE will be non-existent
     
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    This is a bad move by the Taliban. If they can establish relations with the Chinese they will be effectively in power forever.

    Seems like a small concession to make for such a benefit.

    But hey, I'm not mad about it! I can't think of a better solution for both issues than this.
     
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    ya true
     
  14. US Conservative

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    That family Biden droned...nobody was punished for that. 7 kids killed.

    And the 13 troops...we had eyes ON that suicide bomber and nothing was done.
     
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    civilian casualty drone strikes have been a constant for decades. at this point, we're ALL responsible.
     
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    "Deal with the Devil" -- We got two devils dealing in this negotiation .. not sure how dissillusioned Islamists are going to fight China .. but . all the power to them either way :)
     
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    I don't understand what you mean.

    It will be asymmetrical.
     
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    Saying that both China and the Taliban are Devils .. For sure the disillusioned Islamists will fight asymmetrically .. what other choice to they have .. not sure how much good it will do them however.
     
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    theocracies are evil
     
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    I posted a pic of the US being running out of Vietnam with it's tale between it's leg. THAT and nothing else is the end of that war. Vietnam still is a communistic state to this day, because the US lost the war against China and the USSR. And since you think you can teach me a lesson or 2 about that war and warcrimes. Let me remind you that the rather well known fact that US committed horrible war crimes by carpet bombing civilians, and dumping an incredible amount of chemicals poisoning their country. The birth defects that still happen because of that is the disgusting heritage that they still suffer. This shouldn't be a surprise to you. It's also well known American soldiers were not shy with using cocaine and opium during that war. And they got a museum in Vietnam showing rather graphically with actual pictures taken back in the day how the combination of drug addicted US soldiers and Vietnamese POW's played out. And we're talking about the early 1970's when the apartheid state laws of the US only just legally ended. So when you also put that racist theme into the mix,... you can fill in the end result how things went during them days. Let me also remind you that the guy who got busted with genocide, the My Lai massacre, only received 3 years house arrest where his "house" was one of the biggest militarily bases in the US.

    That's what shows exactly what the US thought about their own war crimes. So it's just weird that you, out of the blue, start to mention Chinese war crimes as if it was all a 1 way street, while the fact is the US paved a highway to hell. With that, back to the OP, it's just right that China is in it's full rights to -when confronted how they deal with the Uyghurs- that they can shrug it off since the US still has no problem that they did that too on a large scale and accuse America and Americans of hypocrisy.
     
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    how many innocents died under Trump, sadly many innocents die during war, thankfully Biden ended this 20 year war


    let the Taliban, China and ISIS-k go at it for the next 20 years if they want, we are out
     
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    So China won when the US lost. To call it a "withdrawal" is just an euphemism for loosing.
     
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    China never should have embraced their new dictatorship, they were doing good

    life is changing in China, and not for the better
     
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    China's war with Vietnam was a totally seperate war... nothing to do with the US at all. If you want to know what I think about our war with vietnam, you can do a search here. Quick version- not a fan. But the discussion was China's war with Vietnam which we had no part in.
     
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    We're out? Ya think?
     

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