103 Marines booted for refusing COVID vaccine as services begin discharges

If you won't obey an order to get vaccinated how can you be trusted to charge an enemy machine gun nest or to seal off a flooding compartment on a submarine with you inside of it that will result in your death?

 

FDA approved vaccines which is what all three (phizer, Moderna and J&J) currently are. Claim to try again?

FDA approved vaccines can be required to be taken by military members.

Some will bring up the ANTHRAX vaccine, which at the time in question was NOT FDA approved. Sorry but you are wrong in every aspect.

 

No you claimed they were "experimental" when in fact they are FDA approved.

 

Then show us these "Studies" and more importantly where they come from. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

were at war with covid per Trump, were these people supporting the enemy

 

it's not bigger than the risk of covid, if one has the risk from the spikes in the vaccine, then they will have an even worse risk from the spikes in the real virus

 

I'm sorry for your individual situation.

What I posted are facts.

80 people have died, of approximately 1,500,000 service members, or .00005% but everybody should get the vaccine, yet 23 people have had sever reactions to the vaccine...

I'm not in board with the philosophy based on simple math.

 

Yet that is not what is happening.

 

that is what is happening

 

The rist that they get sick and so can not function is high. They are a liability.
You 2 are mixing up getting sick with dying.

They don't really care about who dies in the army.
They care if the army is still able to do it's job.

 

Somebody died while serving in the army. Who knew right? lol
This is about if the army can still operate in a reliable way with all them sick people, and what must be done to have that reliable army.
Enter the jab.

 

What is the advantage gained by taking the shot? The shots don't work, they screw up your immune system and more, and the frigging virus has a 99% survival rate.

Injecting our military, now pretty much a done deal, is a sinister agenda.

 

Two friends of mine who took the shot are in the same boat, chest pains. One is wearing a heart monitor. I feel so sorry for them.

 

There is virtually zero imminent threat for young healthy people form the virus. Your hypotheticals are a joke.

 

I agree, but that still does not justify stupid orders.

 

It depends on if it is a lawful order. Soldiers get lots of shots, and extra shots for diseases we don't have here. So the lawfulness of the order needs to be challenged.

I'd like to see the numbers and a breakdown of adverse effects, broken down my race, age, and morbidity. The military can easily do this, then present the information to the troops. It is an all volunteer force, not a bunch of dumb assed draftees like me in '66, back when men were men and sheep were nervous.

 

Big pharma has to sell their product. If you want a paycheck without all the work, get a government job. If you want extreme wealth without being responsible for results, get a government contract!

 

There is no place in the military for men of conscience.

Jack London described the quintessential military man: "The lowest aim in your life is to become a soldier. The good soldier never tries to distinguish right from wrong. He never thinks; never reasons; he only obeys. If he is ordered to fire on his fellow citizens, on his friends, on his neighbors, on his relatives, he obeys without hesitation. If he is ordered to fire down a crowded street when the poor are clamoring for bread, he obeys, feeling neither remorse nor sympathy."

Those conscientious men who refused the shots are not fit for today's US military.

 

Tell me your trolling ... please ..

 

Yes ... Totalitarian regimes can approve anything they like .. you are correct.

 

All of your arguments are irrelevant on this issue.
When enlisting, these men and women agreed to serve for a specific term and the conditions that would apply therein. Have you ever heard anybody say that "military recruiters are not to be trusted"? The primary reason is they are known to paint a rosier picture and once the documents are signed, enlistees are stuck or can go AWOL (on the run for a long time) or be dishonorably discharged.

There is very little risk (but, risk nonetheless) for most vaccines we get. We take our precious little infants to the Pediatrician to get them injected with stuff. To this day, I don't understand why infants are given Hepatitis vaccines with the first 24 hours of life. I think it's reasonable to say that they are sexually active or drug users at a day old and they get way more than that.

We require our kids to get vaccinated to attend school. Of course, we have the option of declining them and finding other educational options for our children. In fact, just about everything in society requires acceptance of whatever the rules are when wee agree to live in that society.

Medical people have to graduate and complete residency programs.
People have to take a written and road test and eye exam to get a driver's license.
People have to complete training to be police officers, paramedics and fire fighters.
We have to have on shoes and shirts to shop in most, if not all, retail establishments.
We have to pay money to our government from whatever we earn from gainful employment.

* We all have to do whatever rules our employers have.

On that last one, specifically, maybe try NOT doing it and see what happens. We both know most of the US is "at will" which means we, the employee, or our employer can terminate the relationship for any reason that is not protected by our laws.

So, if you can be shown the door for not doing as you are instructed to do (and, I can only assume that you do whatever they tell you to do since probably enjoy living indoors and having food in your belly because you seem sane) why is *this* employer (USA) telling his employees (the enlisted) what they can and can't do problematic?

 

how many got sick, could not do what they were supposed to do?

 

How did you and your leftist media determine there are no long term effects on a vaccine thats only been out for a year? Did you time travel to 10 years in the future?
Can't wait to hear this.

 

Nobody with two brain cells would call it a vaccine. Its just gene therapy.

Does this experimental (so called) vaccine stop you from getting Covid?
NO
Does this experimental (so called) vaccine stop you from spreading the virus?
NO
Does this experimental (so called) vaccine give you better immunity than the infection itself?
NO
Is there any data that can prove this experimental (so called) vaccine doesn't have long term effects?
NO
Are the manufactures of this experimental (so called) vaccine accountable in the future for any adverse effects or false predicted outcomes?
NO
Do vaccines needs boosters every 6 months to be viable?
NO
Does the CDC consider you vaccinated if you don't take the booster every 6 months
NO

Yet the survival rate of Covid is still 98.8% without this experimental (so called) vaccine.
Go figure