Taylor Budowich: Trump spokesman sues Jan. 6 committee to block access to his financial records

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  1. The Ant

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    That the morons who planned this thing failed in their attempts, it makes it no less a crime…

    If a bunch of yokels plan and instigate a bank robbery, but they are caught by the cops without getting a single dollar, will they still not end up on charges…?
     
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    You might want to check your historical notes on which administration appointed Mueller.
     
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    The us national archives disagrees with you.
     
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    Brazen SOB's.... they're now just coming out and saying the plan was to overturn the election

    SNIP
    “Steve Bannon’s role was to figure out how to use this information—what he called ‘receipts’—to overturn the election result. That’s how Steve had come up with the Green Bay Sweep idea,” he wrote.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-advisor-peter-navarro-lays-031432176.html

    I'm not normally a fan of summary justice, but there's a time and place for sedition to be punished...
     
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    Like you would know. lol
     
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    They didn't fail. They rioted at the Capital.

    Sure they would and so will the rioters of the Capital.
    But you won't find any charges for insurrection.
     
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  7. AmericanNationalist

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    To his position of Special Counsel? Rod Rosenstein after howling from Congress. That waste of time, much like this iteration of a waste of time was their creation. One wonders if there isn't anything to investigate, what would we get from this body?
     
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    Still not insurrection or sedition. The political activities of the losing candidacy, while sour was not a crime. Can we now please close this pathetic commission?
     
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    More desperate attempts by the same depraved crew of Congressional Democrats Jerry Nadler, Eric Swallwell, and Bug Eyed Adam Schiff to make Trump "the story" as they abuse their power and do little for Americans.

    It's no wonder that Herpes has a higher approval rating that Congressional Democrats.
     
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    Actually, Navarro's book and report is a great affirmative for the defense. Since as Navarro stated, there was no need for violence(and indeed, you won't find so much as a single citation of violence in the memos itself.) The committee has served its supposed purpose. There was no insurrection or sedition, nor was there a plan for such insurrection or sedition.

    The Democrats are now basically doing their own version of Benghazi, after complaining about the Benghazi hearings.
     
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    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...enter/65-1684a7e5-7cc9-4027-96bd-75d96b50c467
    So unarmed that Walter Reed has authorized a year of medical treatment for the defenders of the Capital Bld?

    "D.C. Metropolitan Police Department officer Mike Fanone was one of the officers fighting to defend the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    On Fanone’s bodycam video you can hear one person in the crowd scream “I got one!” as Fanone is pulled into the throng. At other points, you can hear Fanone screaming in pain, and saying “I’ve got kids.” "
    Yep just a bunch of peaceful protesters singing Kum bay ya.
     
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    Ummm....gee......that's hard. So...a riot occurred after the Rally. People who were at the Rally are pleading guilty to offences they committed inside The Capitol. Strong link there, or a good enough one anyway. So...follow the money...find The Man. Investigate any connection he had with dickheads inside The Capitol. Could it be that simple, ya reckon?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    If you cannot be bothered to know which party was in control in Congress in 2017, I'm not really sure what you are planning on adding to this discussion....
     
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    I suspect your definition of sedition and mine differ greatly. I'll stick with the dictionary/legal one, of which attempting to "overturn the election result" (Thanks Petey) clearly qualifies...
     
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    Except it doesn't. Biden wasn't the legally seated President at the time. So unless Congress qualifies as the government itself(I don't think we've ever given Congress that distinction) then it'll never, ever meet that distinction. If there were to be a sedition conspiracy, it would be a conspiracy to overthrow the then-sitting President of the US, Donald Trump at the time. Biden was only President-Elect.
     
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    Firstly, to dispel the fake "Russian collusion" nonsense that was and remains a relentless Trump diversion, no one ever charged Trump with "collusion" - which is not a crime.

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    "COLLOOOOOOOSION!"


    The closest anyone came to making a charge of complicity in Putin's having conspired to help Trump and hurt Clinton (as has been proven) was Trump's senior advisor. Concerning the secret meeting between Putin's agents and the folks running Trump's campaign, Bannon opined

    ““The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government
    inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.
    Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad $hit,
    and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

    As to why a Congressional investigative committee is investigating an unprecedented goon attack on Congress, an attempt to subvert democracy incited by lies, the truth regarding the repugnant caper's financing, organization, coordination, participation, and the apparent dereliction of duty in failing to call off the goons for hours, despite desperate pleading by cronies, as the goons savaged police defending Congress, the pertinent question is, "What are they so desperately trying to hide?"
     
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    You should inform your left wing media who not only coined the phrase but pushed it for 3 years.
    As far as conspiracy goes, I believe it was Mueller that stated in his report:
    There is no evidence that confirms Trump or his campaign conspired with the Russians to effect the outcome of the election.
    So now we can dispel the fake Russian conspiracy nonsense as well.
    Exaggerations out of context
    Yeah, those 400K in facebook adds placed by Russians posing as Americans, didn't endorse a specific candidate but spread inflammatory messages on sensitive subjects such as immigration and race to amplify fault lines in American life, targeting users from specific backgrounds and tight races in key states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Virginia.
    Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released thousands of Russian Facebook ads , offering the public its first in-depth look at the troubling messages used to heighten tensions among Americans during and after the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
    More Exaggerations out of context
    1. It wasn't 3 senior guys in the Campaign. Its was Don Trump Jr, Manafort, and Kushner. Trump Jr wasn't part of the campaign.
    2. The meeting was not with the foreign government or any representative of any foreign government. It was with Natalia Vladimirovna, an attorney from Russia who said she had opposition research on Clinton.
    3. Later it was found that Vladirovna was working with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson. The very same Fusion GPS that was hosting the Steel dossier for their own opposition research.

    But I guess it just sounds better when you try and claim 3 Trump officials met with a foreign government.
    Even though this BS has been debunked, it doesn't matter to the left as they continue to spew fake information.


    More Exaggerations and fake claims out of context
    It was a 4 hour riot. Thats all. No cop was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher, 200 people in Viking garb with no standing army or weapons is capable of this fake insurrection claim, there is no secret file, phone call, email, or directive where Trump was planning an attack on the Capital,

    Its nothing more than Democrats using misdirection and more exaggerations for something that never happened trying to gain access to all of Trump files so they can find more information to be taken out of context for yet another failed (get Trump) propaganda media hostage event.
    No different than the last 5 years of thousands of fake criminal claims we have heard without a single charge against Trump.
    No different than
    Kavanaugh is an alcoholic high school serial rapist
    The Covington Catholic kids are all white supremist
    All Trump loans are signed off by Russian oligarchs
    It was an armed insurrection
    Trump supporters climbed the roof of the capital to raise a Trump flag
    AOC was hiding in a closet afraid for her life, later found out she wasn't even close to the capital

    Sorry, your leftist reputation precedes you in every account. If you're willing to falsify and exaggerate the simplest of events, why is it you would think anyone would buy into the latest Leftist claims when your batting average is 0/1000?


     
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    There was nothing stopping the Mueller grand jury from issuing an indictment or Mueller telling Congress he had found criminal acts and would be indicting Trump as soon as he was out of office. Bill Clinton was present indictments as he was leaving office and plea bargained the charges. Same could have happened to Trump. The fact is Mueller made no such claims, the OLC found no such crimes and the AG and DAG agreed.
     
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    This is such foolishness. Mueller said it wasn't his role to comment on the role of T**** in the activities in his report. That should be up to Congress to require him to do and they didn't. He at no point ever exonerated T****. Since you began with such foolishness I saw no point in reading further.

    On a happier note. For those wondering why the committee has not called on T**** to testify? Because anything said there cannot be used in a court of law unless the speaker chooses to repeat what they said. It's why the 5th ammendment can't be invoked there.They want his butt in front of a judge.
     
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  20. AmericanNationalist

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    And yet, the DOJ continues to refuse to indict the former President or anyone else in this grand conspiracy that only the committee believes in its kangaroo court proceedings. At what point will the people desist from this foolishness and address national concerns in the here and now?
     
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    Because many of us want to get back to legitimate issues, creating legitimate laws, allowing legitimate progress. T**** personifies the problem and his sycophants expand it. Putin is ecstatic and the world suffers. With exposure and take down maybe those lauding him loudest, I'm looking at a Florida governor, a Texas senator and a certain "news" network will feel the heat too.
     
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    Odd, I think many conservatives are looking at the issues facing the country right now and many don't care much for Donald Trump. In fact, it's the mainstream Washington who is foolhardy and mistaken to think that this originates through one man. No, mainstream Washington has failed America for decades and unless we progress forward, there will be more Donald Trumps as more citizens are rightly ticked off at a government that doesn't work.
     
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    And you recommend more buffoonery rather than solving the problem.
    I've said here many times. The republican party has succumbed to the fools and the moderates, even some conservative, members should leave the party and form a new one inviting moderate democrats to join them. It should become the largest but not majority party within a few cycles forcing the extremes to seek out ways to get their support on certain key issues. Look for it to be fiscal conservative and social liberal.
     
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    I find it so amazing how the left just slurps up their media BS and magically think it must be true because I heard it on CNN. Its so easy to find the posters that just blindly regurgitate these Don Lemon tripes of idiocy.
    I'll even give you examples

    Fake point #1
    The special counsels role is to investigate potential crimes, report those crimes to the Attorney General, and make criminal recommendations, so the AG can make those recommendations to Congress for impeachment.
    No different than when Ken Starr made 11 felony recommendations on Clinton. But you bought that line because Mueller didn't have any criminal recommendations he could make and needed an excuse for his failed investigation.
    And people like you were more than happy to buy into this idea. How did you think you impeach a president if you don't have a criminal charge to convict on? Did you really think special counsels were formed because they have no role in commenting on the president? And you bought that BS?

    If he has no role in commenting on the president, then why would he claim he couldn't exonerate him? And you bought into this? Jesus dude. Wake up

    Fake point #2
    That would be because it isn't his job to exonerate the president or convict the president. His job is to report his findings to the AG. Thats it.
    Heres how you know you're having a discussion with someone who has been influenced by the media with absolutely no knowledge on how special counsels work, when they claim Mueller didn't exonerate Trump from the very same report that didn't make a single criminal recommendation to the AG.
    But again, you bought into this.

    Fake point #3
    Sure you didn't. Again, you think people actually buy into that claim? For you to even post something like that, it only verifies how easily you can be sold on something because you try to pass it on to someone else.
    What it really means is you don't have the ability to dispute what was posted so you thought everyone else would buy into a statement like, because you would buy into a statement like that.
    Sorry, Doesn't work that way.

    Fake point #4
    Just like OMG. FFS. That one statement doesn't even need to be disputed. It speaks VOLUMES all by itself on how disconnected you are from actual events or procedures.
    Where do you even dig up this nonsense

    1. On May 10, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) issued a subpoena to Michael Flynn, requesting that he produce documents related to the committee’s investigation of alleged Russian attempts to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Flynn’s attorneys notified the committee’s leadership that he will invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and will not comply with the subpoena.
    And there wasn't thing one they could do about it.
    There is no place where your right to invoke the 5th amendment can be taken from you.
    But you bought into this?

    2. The committee hasn't called on Trump to testify because you can't make a witness testify against himself in any court or committee.
    But you bought into this?

    3. The committee hasn't called on Trump to testify because he has executive privilege and no committee can force a former president to invade his own privilege
    But you bought into this?

    4. Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen, were all questioned by committee, then tried in court, found guilty, and sentenced in court, but you bought into the idea anything said there cannot be used in a court of law?
    You seem to be easily sold on such easily found information to the contrary. I bet you think the earth is flat.
     
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