Unprecedented mass protests grip Kazakhstan

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  1. wgabrie

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    Unprecedented mass protests grip Kazakhstan
    https://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AASsGLh?ocid=winp-se
    Wow, what a coincidence. I've been studying for the past few days about the fall of the Soviet Union.

    Now, I just stumbled across this article about mass protests in Kazakhstan. Its government is a totalitarian leftover of the Soviet days. Protests were the start of all republics that broke away from the USSR for freedom in 1991.

    I guess there was a holdover from that initial collapse all those decades ago.

    I wish Kazakhstan and its people good luck in their endeavor, and hopefully, they will get a taste of freedom. :)
     
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    The Taliban and Isis in neighboring Afgganistan will exploit this.

    Likely Iran and China too.
     
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    Russia is now warning against outside intervention in Kazakhstan.

    Kremlin warns against outside interference in Kazakhstan (msn.com)
    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Kazakhstan could solve its own problems and it was important that no one interfered from the outside, RIA news agency reported.

    From what I heard, in my study of the fall of the USSR was that protests weren't met with Russian military control of the situation, which would have happened during the Stalinist era. In the latter days of the USSR they just sort of left things to happen as they will. Without interference. The sentiment is odd, I don't understand it. But, maybe even the communist party knew their system was rotten, and there needed to be some change.

    Back to Kazakhstan, being in the Islamic sphere of the world, they may not go the way of the Eastern European, ex-Soviet republics. What's to become of them? I don't know.
     
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    There are rolling gunfights in the streets.

    Protestors got into a military base and took all the guns.

    They do not like Russians and I read Putin is sending in a quick reaction force.
     
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    Looks like they are having a revolution.
     
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    Borat is leading the Revolution!
     
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    They have superior potassium.
     
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    Yep, it looks like Russians are starting another war on their doorstep.
     
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    Strange days. And there's a question of.being largely Muslim, will terror groups take up arms against Russia.
     
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    Russians have a lot of Nordics mixed in there amongst the slavs. The khazaks wouldnt stand a chance.
     
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    Chechnya was pretty sporty for a bit.
     
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    Sounds like a mess over there... best of luck to the Kazaks here.... Here's a more detailed article.. you read stuff like this and have to laugh/cry

    SNIP
    The US State Department's 2018 human rights report noted Kazakhstan's 2015 presidential election, in which Nazarbayev received 98% of votes cast, "was marked by irregularities and lacked genuine political competition." There have never been elections in Kazakhstan judged free and fair by international observers.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/asia/kazakhstan-almaty-protests-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html

    One side note... I think it's interesting to point out that in a better world, Almaty Kazakhstan would be hosting the Winter Olympics in less than a month. They lost to Beijing during the final 2015 vote, 44-40. I guess that's sort of a Sophie's Choice there, but I was rooting against Beijing, as were most people at the time...
     
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    It looks like the CIA is once again hard at work!
     
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    For readers like me who have had no idea what everybody in Kazakhstan is so pissed off about, here's a fairly plausible explanation I found on the 'net: https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/06/kazakhstan-what-s-behind-the-unrest-and-is-a-revolution-brewing

    I thought everybody in that general area of Asia was happy, more-or-less, but once the economy starts going to hell, everything else follows along with it. Perhaps it's a lesson we had ALL better focus on as our central banks in 'the West' continue printing bales of imaginary money, crushing interest rates, and sending inflation shooting further into outer space....
     
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