Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tests positive for COVID-19

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  1. flyboy56

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    QUOTE="SouthernFried87, post: 1073183470, member: 101568"]Since when does a seasonal flu shot require 3, 4, 5 + jabs? Lol

    Poor comparison.[/QUOTE]

    Educate yourself on the history of the flu virus. And every year since a vaccine was discovered it is constantly modified yearly to fight the constantly changing flu virus.

    https://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmatters/2018/05/1918-flu/

    The science of influenza has come a long way in 100 years![​IMG]Developments since the 1918 pandemic include vaccines to help prevent flu, antiviral drugs to treat flu illness, antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections such as pneumonia, and a global influenza surveillance system with 114 World Health Organization member states that constantly monitors flu activity.
     
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    You know what I kind of agree. I feel the same way about drug overdoses. I say we just leave them there to suffer from the consequences of their actions. How about you?
     
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    I say there is a limited amount of resources and we can't be having that 1 group is hawking it, because of their personal life choices and the expense of others. I would hope that somebody who is addicted, is indeed the result of a life choice, but a choice with regrets for quiet some time and can't find it's way out with the result some OD. I don't think a person who OD's and gets the help in time, is hardly a strain on the community compared to 3 weeks on the ICU by some anti vaxxer. While the anti-vaxxers also seem to be quiet content with their choice, right all the way to the end until they start nabbing resources that others need to stay alive.
     
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    No, they don't. They don't even protect people from getting the COVID-19 variant, let alone any other variant.

    AOC is the most recent of a string of numerous people to be triple jabbed yet still "get COVID". That's not protection, and vaccines have never protected people from anything. They are, rather, a method of training one's adaptive immune system to better respond to a virus upon exposure to it. This typically means that one doesn't become symptomatic upon exposure (or rather mildly symptomatic at worst).

    And like I've explained, the COVID-19 variant IS NOT the Delta variant or the Omicron variant. They are all different viruses (likely all variants of the same SARS-CoV series of viruses). A COVID-19 jab is not a Delta jab is not an Omicron jab, just as an H1N1 jab is not an H3N2 jab. They are all different viruses.

    Vaccinated people still end up in hospitals and die. There is no protection from either situation due to vaccination. It is possible that there is a reduction in hospitalizations and deaths, but protection is not the right word to be using because there ARE cases of vaccinated people being hospitalized and dying.

    So the issue is compromised immune systems, not COVID-19 or any other SARS-CoV variant going around. Rochelle Walensky (CDC Director) has even admitted, as of a few days ago, that the vast majority of people (over 75% of them) who have been labeled as a "COVID-19 death" had AT LEAST FOUR comorbidities.

    My next question is: How many of the remaining 'less than 25%' had two or three comorbidities?? Point being, even the CDC Director is now admitting (in her own words) that most of the people labeled as a COVID-death are people who were already quite unwell to begin with. You can watch her say all of this for herself (on some CBS morning show on January 7th) if you don't believe me.

    Flu vaccines are largely ineffective for the reasons I have described. SARS-CoV jabs are going to face the same issues (beyond the safety issues that they are facing per VAERS reports and other sources).

    Never said it was.
     
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    COVID-19 is a specific virus (SARS-CoV-2), not a general disease (what people are typically labeling as COVID).

    The language "variants of COVID-19" is VERY misleading and is purposely used because COVID-19 is the "established brand" that has people terrified for their lives.

    COVID-19 is SARS-CoV-2, which is a SARS-CoV series variant. IOW, COVID-19 is already a variant of the SARS-CoV series of viruses. Alpha, Delta, Omicron, etc are all just variants in addition to COVID-19. They are not COVID-19 itself, but are separate viruses with separate identities. Likewise, you don't call your 2nd brother "the brother of your brother" do you?? You simply call him "your brother". Alpha, Delta, Omicron, etc are likewise "brothers" of COVID-19; they are not COVID-19 itself. The media just using the language "variants of COVID-19" in order to lead you to believe that all of these "variants" ARE COVID-19 (even though they aren't) in order to continue ramping up the fear mongering. It is all a scam. It is all a scam. It is all a scam.

    Just think about it...

    No they don't, as I have already explained in a prior post.
     
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    Yup, because I focused intently on her sex, skin color, and race. /sarcasm

    Oh wait, that's what DEMOCRATS constantly focus on, because DEMOCRATS are the party of racism (and have been ever since their inception... There's a reason why their own party website completely ignores the first 100 years of their history).
     
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    The disease being labeled as "COVID"?? Sure. But it's not all COVID-19 (the virus).

    There is no "beta-version". The vaccine was made specifically for the COVID-19 virus (the SARS-CoV-2 virus). Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, or any other "variant" is NOT COVID-19 (the SARS-CoV-2 virus). They are separate viruses with separate identities. They are likely all variants within the SARS-CoV series of viruses, as COVID-19 is itself a SARS-CoV series variant. There are no vaccines for Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, etc ... There is only a vaccine for COVID-19. A big reason why so many triple vaxxed people are still getting COVID (the disease) is that they aren't vaccinated for the viruses that are actually spreading around as of currently (namely, Delta and Omicron).

    See above.
     
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    You're replying to a post how AOC complied with the law and all the CDC guidelines -as far as I know anyways- and you're not responding to that. Your only response is about the why AOC is being attacked (again) by the GOP, ignoring the argument that the GOP is dishonestly claiming she did not comply with the law / guidelines. The dishonest claim of the GOP about AOC is indeed because of her sex, skin color and race. I'm calling you lot out. It's obvious why the GOP is presenting their dishonest claims as facts. It's not without reason they constantly attack her.
     
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    You got it wrong.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Omicron_variant
    The Omicron variant is a variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19
     
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    Her booster was back in early October. wanes after 10 weeks or so. Just an fyi.
     
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    ... because I have no issue with her compliance with Florida law. If you would read and comprehend my posts (instead of strawmanning them), then you'd know where my issue with regard to AOC lies.

    I don't care what the GOP is or isn't claiming, as it is irrelevant to anything that I have said in this thread. If you'd read my posts without strawmanning them, then you'd know what my issue with AOC's actions is.

    No, you are just playing the sex and race victim cards again. Meh. The only person concerned about AOC's sex and race here appears to be you. Are YOU being racist by any chance?

    Who is "you lot"? Who says that I am a part of it? No, you are just creating a sex/race issue where none exists and then attempting to apply it onto myself and "[my] lot". You are the one being sexist/racist here, not myself or any of "my lot".

    Already addressed above.

    Already addressed above.
     
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    Wikipedia is summarily dismissed. I do not accept Wikipedia as a source of anything, and you cannot use Wikipedia as a source with me.

    The specific language "COVID-19 variants" is merely semantic gameplaying in order to fear monger and to attach multiple other SARS-CoV series viruses onto the "established COVID-19 brand".

    Let's go through a thought exercise with you so you can see what I am talking about. Let's say that you have two brothers, as follows:

    notme
    notme brother #1
    notme brother #2

    Would you call notme brother #2 the "brother of your brother"?? OR would you call notme brother #2 "your brother"??? Would notme brother #2 call you the "sister of his brother" or would notme brother #2 call you "his sister"???

    Same applies to the "family" of the SARS-CoV series of viruses. Would you call Omicron a "SARS-CoV-2 variant"??? Or would you call Omicron a "SARS-CoV variant"???

    HINT: There is a reason why there is a '2' at the end of SARS-CoV-2... and that is because SARS-CoV-2 is ALREADY A VARIANT of the SARS-CoV series of viruses. A "variant of a variant" is merely a variant, just as a "brother of a brother" is merely a brother.

    It's all semantic gameplaying to make you think that Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, and etc are ALL COVID-19, even though they aren't. It's all a scam.
     
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    A COVID-19 jab, no matter how many times one gets jabbed with it, is still not a jab specific for Omicron, Delta, or any other virus.

    SARS-CoV-2 is NOT SARS-CoV-3 is NOT SARS-CoV-4, and etc...


    But even under the false delusion that all of those different viruses ARE COVID-19, and that the COVID-19 jabs offer protection, that's obviously not the case if AOC and a **** ton of other people who have been triple jabbed are still getting COVID anyway.

    Many people have been completely duped by their government and the fake news media that those people receive their talking points from.
     
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    I wish it nothing but the best...







    ... pain and suffering!
     
  15. balancing act

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    Then Trump should be able to win an election 17-18 years from now!
     
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    Double-vaxed and boosted?

    FAIL CAT.jpg

    Fail Cat is impressed...
     
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    But she'll be protected from the worst symptoms.

    The vaccines will provide protection across the different strains of Covid ( blunt instruments though they be).
     
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    Nope, not even from that.

    Nope, as I have already explained. -- There are no "strains of COVID" either... There is just COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2). Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, and etc are all different viruses (likely also within the SARS-CoV series of viruses, just as COVID-19 is). They are all likely SARS-CoV variants.
     
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    Wrong
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59696499
    My point was the vaccines will provide protection against the different strains. Changing labels is irrelevant.
     
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    Laughing at an entire generation being dumbed down isn't funny.
     
  21. balancing act

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    Well, I thought it was funny. What is really funny is you thinking that kids BORN during the shutdown would even have their IQ's evaluated.
    I guess if you want to believe something bad enough, you will!
     
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    Actually IQ is relatively easy to assess.

    The lack of mental stimulation leads to a decrease in brain development.
     
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    I do not accept BBC as a source. You cannot use it as a source with me. Vaccinated people are not protected from the worst symptoms. Any hospitalized vaccinated person shows your claim to be incorrect.

    Nope. A COVID-19 vaccine does not protect oneself from COVID-19, let alone any other virus. Any vaccinated person who has still contracted COVID anyway shows your claim to be incorrect.
     
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    Careful. Measuring IQ is racist. :)
     
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    You seem confused. It's a statistical thing. Do you understand that effectiveness is measured by contrasting people who have vaccines and don't?

    Here's and example using booster data

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...er-shot-protection-kicks-in-2021-11?r=US&IR=T

    You seem to think that just because some people who are vaccinated end up in hospital that they are on an even keel with those who are unvaccinated. It's a little like citing the example of somebody who broke their seat belt and flew out of the front window and died as an example of "seat belts don't protect the occupants"
     
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