Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tests positive for COVID-19

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  1. balancing act

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    That actually explains a lot about this forum! lol
     
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    What lies?

    I know her actions. It's been taped.

    The shoe fits. OAC complied not just with the law, but also with the CDC guidelines on how to behave during the Pandemic as far as I am aware what they are.

    You lot are ripping on AOC for not wearing a mask. The CDC guidelines -as far as I know- say that you do not need to do that, when outside. AOC was outside. I find it not plausible to think AOC would want to have harsher guidelines then the CDC says there should be. Hence, there is no hypocrisy, and there are no lies made by her. All there is, is an unfounded attack on AOC based on lie that she's not applying what she is advocating. She's frequently singled out and attacked like that. And so I am calling you lot out on the sexist, racist behavior.

    bla bla
     
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    Well, here is the thing: I do not accept your quack virology opinion vs Wikipedia saying something else.
     
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    Actually, you seem to be the one who is confused. Do you understand what the word 'protected' means? Any instance of a hospitalized vaccinated person destroys your "vaccinated people are protected from the worst symptoms" theory.

    While it could be true that vaccinated people are hospitalized at a lesser rate than unvaccinated people are (would need valid data to support that claim), it is ABSOLUTELY FALSE to outright claim that vaccinated people are protected from the worst symptoms. That is blatant and harmful misinformation as far as I am concerned.

    No, I actually think, as I have said countless times, that the fact some vaccinated people are indeed ending up in hospitals completely and utterly destroys your position that "vaccinated people are protected from the worst symptoms".

    Apples and oranges. Invalid comparison.
     
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    AOC...... COVID!!!!! YES. Pop the champagne!!!!!

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  6. gfm7175

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    You misunderstood what I typed... I typed "... where my issue with AOC lies." (as in, what specific issue I have with AOC with regard to this thread)... I wasn't making an accusation of her telling lies.

    Good, and I do too. So knowing that, and seeing what I had typed to you prior, you should be able to see the issue that I have with AOC and why that is.

    For the millionth time, that's not the issue that I have with AOC. Please re-read what I have typed to you prior to see what my issue with her actions is.

    Not for not wearing one, but for her hypocrisy.

    Again, that's not the issue.

    She wants harsher mandates/regulations than the current CDC guidelines.

    Yes, there is.

    My posting in this thread is about her hypocrisy, not about any of her lies.

    She's not applying what she is advocating, and she is not living under the tyrannical rules/regulations that she advocates for. She attacks Florida as being "dangerous" because they aren't forcing COVID mandates down people's throats, yet she goes down there anyway to vacation. If she actually thought Florida was acting dangerously, then she wouldn't go down there... but she did... Hence, her hypocrisy.

    Who is "[my] lot"? You still haven't defined that. The only person intently focused on her sex and race is you, so the sexism and racism is yours. I've yet to ever bring it up, as it means absolutely nothing with regard to her hypocrisy.
     
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    Obviously you don't wish to learn or hold intelligent discourse if you are immediately dismissing my post as "quack virology opinion" without answering any of the questions that I asked of you, or going through any of the logic that I have laid out in it. There is good reasoning behind why I am saying what I am saying, but you don't wish to go through it with me because you already have your mind made up that I am "a conservative" therefore I "am wrong".

    If my post actually was "quack virology opinion", then you should be able to easily go through what I said in my post line by line and tell this forum precisely why that is (without mindlessly linking to a Wikipedia page). But you can't.
     
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    Well, he does have a good point - according to calculations, the earliest time omicron had common genes with covid was in July of 2020.
    July 2020 was like what, 6 months into the pandemic?
    Where has it been the last 18 months? It’s spreading like wild fire now, why didn’t it start spreading in the summer of 2020?
    Also, why is it that scientists are struggling to identify which variant of covid omicron came from?
    I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut, but those guys have been right way too many times lately, and the assumption that omicron is not really covid isn’t that far from the truth.
     
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    Aha. So everything you drag in that she lies, it's not relevant to the topic. Thanks for clarifying you're ranting all over the place.

    You say that. And I doubt that, and you remain to not be specific about it.

    And those mandates would be what the CDC promotes, as far as I know. She complied with that.

    When I am calling you lot out on it, then it's indeed me who is bringing it up.
    Good observation.
     
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    Why on earth should I answer question, just because you post them?
    I proved that delta etc are variation of that corona virus, with a source.
    You disagree, but haven't proved your point with a source.
    Hence I am calling your personal opinion on it, a quack virology opinion. Shoe fits.
    The end.
     
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    I have a point... that I can prove my point.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Omicron_variant

    Omicron could not have something in common with something else in 2020, since it didn't exist in 2020.
     
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    Wikipedia, now there is SOLID information :roflol:
     
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    It's called "having a conversation with someone". I prepared a thought exercise for you to support my position on a basis of logic, and you refused to participate.

    You didn't prove anything. You just appealed to a false authority (Wikipedia). You also ignored my thought exercise to you. You didn't address it in any way. It explains how COVID-19, Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, etc are all different viruses from each other. That's IF one believes that the ones other than COVID-19 even exist.

    I did actually. My source is logic. You ignored it. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.

    Nope. You ignoring my logic exercise doesn't make it go away.
     
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    It's far better then a personal opinion :roflol:
     
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    She’s happy. She thinks testing positive means she passed the test.
     
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    I'm not interested in answering endless questions going nowhere.

    I got a source.
    You do not.
     
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    The chances of ending up in hospital or suffering worst symptoms are reduced with vaccines and boosters. That's what the statistics shows. That's how science works.

    If you feel, despite this that the vaccine doesn't protect adequately or at all, no one's going to stop you from thinking that.

    I suspect you are afraid to take the vaccine and are seeking justification for your behaviour.
     
  19. gfm7175

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    Three questions is hardly "endless" (and they are all variations of the same question, so it's essentially only a single question), and I already told you where my questioning was going... Let's try it again:

    Let's say that you have two brothers, as follows:

    notme
    notme brother #1
    notme brother #2

    Would you call notme brother #2 the "brother of your brother"?? OR would you call notme brother #2 "your brother"??? Would notme brother #2 call you the "sister of his brother" or would notme brother #2 call you "his sister"???

    Same applies to the "family" of the SARS-CoV series of viruses. Would you call Omicron a "SARS-CoV-2 variant"??? Or would you call Omicron a "SARS-CoV variant"???

    HINT: There is a reason why there is a '2' at the end of SARS-CoV-2... and that is because SARS-CoV-2 is ALREADY A VARIANT of the SARS-CoV series of viruses. A "variant of a variant" is merely a variant, just as a "brother of a brother" is merely a brother.

    It's all semantic gameplaying to make you think that Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron, and etc are ALL COVID-19, even though they aren't. It's all a scam.

    My source is logic. You've already been told this.

    I do not accept Wikipedia as a source of anything. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source with me.
     
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    You are irrationally holding onto a claim that is blatantly false, since you don't know what the word 'protection' means. Vaccines DO NOT PROTECT PEOPLE FROM the worst symptoms (hospitalization). This is known to be true because vaccinated people can and do end up in hospitals. You, like notme, are denying basic logic.
     
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    Logic is not a personal opinion.
     
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    I can provide another similar thought exercise to make my point, this time with reference to the influenza family of viruses.

    As you very well know, what we call "influenza" (the disease) involves a whole slew of different influenza viruses. First, there's general distinctions made with regard to influenza viruses, such as Influenza A, Influenza B, Influenza C, and Influenza D. Then, say specifically within the Influenza A family of viruses, there's further distinctions made to distinguish the individual viruses themselves (based on a couple of proteins on the surface of the viruses). Let's pick out two examples from this Influenza A family of viruses to hone in on, namely H1N1 and H3N2, both of which can infect humans. While H1N1 and H3N2 are both Influenza viruses, and are also both Influenza A viruses, they are NOT the same virus. They are two separate viruses with two separate identities. H1N1 is NOT H3N2, and vice versa.

    Likewise, what we call "COVID" (the disease) involves a whole slew of different coronaviruses. First, there's general distinctions made with regard to coronaviruses, such as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV. Then, say within the SARS-CoV family of viruses, there's further distinctions made to distinguish the individual viruses themselves (based on surface protein changes). Let's pick out two examples from this SARS-CoV family of viruses to hone in on, namely SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2, both of which can infect humans. While SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 are both coronaviruses, and are also both SARS-CoV viruses, they are NOT the same virus. They are two separate viruses with two separate identities. SARS-CoV-1 is NOT SARS-CoV-2, and vice versa. Likewise, SARS-CoV-2 is NOT "Alpha", is NOT "Beta", is NOT "Delta", is NOT "Omicron", and etc... They are all different viruses (due to their spike protein differences due to mutations inside of their hosts which manage to escape their hosts).

    Like I said before, the specific words "COVID-19 variants" is merely semantic gameplaying (such as referring to one of your two brothers as "the brother of your brother" rather than simply referring to him as "your brother"). This semantic gameplaying is done solely because COVID-19 is the "established brand" in terms of what people have been told for two years now to be deathly afraid of. To refer to these new viruses (if they even exist) as something other than COVID-19 is to remove them from the fear mongering hype that has already been established and built upon time and time again over the past two years. THAT'S why the term "COVID-19 variants" is being used, rather than recognizing that COVID-19 is ITSELF a variant and that these other viruses (if they even exist) are simply additional variants to the COVID-19 variant.

    It is all a scam. It is all a scam. It is all a scam. It is my view (this view is debatable, but I think it makes sense) that globalist government entities purposely released a man-made virus from a lab in Wuhan, which created "the problem", and these globalist government entities are now creating "the solution(s)" to "the problem", namely the removal of basic human rights such as the right to have autonomy over one's own body (namely forced mask wearing and forced invasive medical procedures such as tests and vaccinations). It is one great big huge globalist power grab, making Hitler's efforts for control over people look amateurish in comparison. It is my belief that the intense vaccination coercion (and forced jabs in order to participate in civil society) is meant to bring in the COVID vaccination passport system, which is meant to bring in a biometric ID system, which is meant to bring in the "mark of the best" buy/sell system. We are already seeing this play out in Australia (and spread to other countries) and the States of America are not far behind. These things are already being pushed and implemented in the more socialist areas of our country, such as the oligarchies of New York and California (as well as some major cities in other liberal controlled States). We need to be vehemently opposing all of this, and it starts with ditching the damn masks.


    To notme: If you wish to hold intelligent discourse with me regarding any of this, I am right here and willing to discuss this with you. However, I am not accepting Wikipedia as a source, since it is a false authority in this matter. This matter involves science, logic, and philosophy, so those are the sources that I will be accepting.
     
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    EDIT: mark of the BEAST buy/sell system, as mentioned in Revelation of the Holy Bible... I missed out on the 15 minute timer on editing posts.
     
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    In your case I totally agree ;)
     
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    :banana:~ That's why we are here . :blowkiss:

    ~ There is recent data that could actually question this as more vaccinated are ending up hospitalized. We may soon know more .

    ~ A wise decision. ✔
     
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