CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    So the bullet didn't kill her? Then there were no people killed because of Jan 6 in your view.
     
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    My accusation is based on your own words where you stated if 10 people are in a room, the 5 with masks are more safe than the 5 without them lol. You may not like getting your false statements called out but it happened regardless.
     
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    FFS man. The CDC, you know the CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL, posted a study that literally says that I am right ? You keep deflecting with the "nuh uh" defense and nothing to back what you said. I literally posted from the CDC an you keep saying their wrong
     
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    No they did not lol. You haven’t read the studies, no one, including the CDC has ever stated in any study that wearing a mask is for personal protection. You are objectively wrong. They claim that by wearing a mask you protect others.

    masks don’t work, you can pretend otherwise but you are living in fantasy.
     
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  5. balancing act

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    This has to be the ridiculous statement of the day.
    So all those health care workers who have been wearing masks in hospitals for years have been wasting their time, money and effort?
    One would have to be some kind of low functioning adult to believe that masks don't work.
    OR, maybe you know more than all the health care professionals that have been studying this for many, many years.
    You should go into the healthcare field and revolutionize it. They need "out of the box" thinkers like you!
     
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    From the cdc
    Masks are an additional step to help prevent people from getting and spreading COVID-19. They are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others and others respiratory droplets from reaching you. Wear a mask and take every day preventive actions in public settings.

    from npr
    Wearing a mask protects the wearer, and not just other people, from the coronavirus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention emphasized in an updated scientific briefissued Tuesday. And the protective benefits of masks are stronger the more people wear masks consistently and correctly, the agency says.
     
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    JFC. It on the FRONT PAGE of the CDC
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html#:~:text=A study of an outbreak,70% reduced risk.

     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you know that CDC is wholly owned by the pharmaceutical industry?

    So they have a reason to promote such superstition as you offer here? Yes, they do.
     
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    C'mon. I love how anything that people dont like anymore they always find a reason to deny it with feelings, and not facts

    If you have any scientific evidence that contradicts what they said, Im all ears. But your feelings and political bent have no place in science.
     
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    The difference between you and me is that I'm a third of the way through RFK Jr's book The Real Anthony Fauci, while you're afraid to read it. There is more evidence and footnotes in the first chapter than YOU can imagine or are willing to consider.

    I cannot inform you sir, that is something you must do yourself. :peace:
     
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    Not sure about the CDC myself, however it is a know fact that the vast majority of the FDA budget does come from pharmaceutical companies.

    Old article, but factual.

    The Biopharmaceutical Industry Provides 75% Of The FDA's Drug Review Budget. Is This A Problem?
     
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    So Dr's have been wearing masks working with patients, doing surgery , and in labs because they like wearing them, or because their is scientific proof that they actually protect the wearer ?

    RFK is a Lawyer. So I have a serious question, this is not meant to be snide, Why would you believe a lawyer on the subject of science, over they guy who has a literal doctorate in the subject being discussed ? If you "inform" yourself wouldn't you do that from the expert in the field you want to be informed on ? My neighbor thinks he knows a lot of stuff, he's a carpenter, but I dont "inform" myself based on his rantings about science.
     
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    As another said, this is why it’s imperative to eat at least half-way descent and get some exercise from time to time. Take vitamins, etc… Half or more of the problem are these extremely obese individuals.
     
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    I agree. But do you have any other evidence that would support/refute their findings.

    And that number is a little misleading. That money comes from "Industry user fees"

    From the FDA website:

    • The FDA budget for FY 2019 is $6.1 billion.
    • About 54 percent, or $3.3 billion, of FDA’s budget is provided by federal budget authorization. The remaining 46 percent, or $2.8 billion, is paid for by industry user fees.
     
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    Masks are worn in surgery to protect the site and patient (presumably "sterile") from any spittle or bacteria exhaled by the doctors and attendants. That you don't know that simply means you've never studied surgical procedures, and it changes nothing.

    But go ahead GrapeApe, keep on attacking the messenger and completely ignore the message. It fits you just fine. :angel:
     
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    All the bolding and exclamation points doesn't change the fact that your claims are debunked fake news.

    ‘270 DOCTORS’ CALLED OUT JOE ROGAN, BUT THE AUTHORS OF THE LETTER AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF ITS SIGNATORIES ARE NOT MEDICAL DOCTORS:
    So, once again, mostly fake news.
    Well, it may be "paradoxically", but it's also far too often the case.
    And that's the problem for Joe Rogan, as soon as he mentions it what they are are lying about, their lies immediately reach 13-14 times more ears than CNN's audience as Rogan has 13-14 times the audience of CNN

    [​IMG]
     
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    Only surgeons wear masks on regular basis, and they do that not because they want to prevent catching some virus, they wear masks and googles to prevent flakes of their skin, eye lashes, and hairs from falling into an open wound causing bacterial infection.
    Now you know. ;)

    But your belief is wrong, as can be demonstrated by your ignorance of why surgeons wear masks.

    Ignorant and sarcastic! Intelligence is overrated. Go on!
     
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    Ill believe the SCIENCE. You go ahead and believe I things because of who tells you something.
     
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    Can't believe the mods have kept this blatant lie thread to remain.
     
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    Got it! You believe in Pope Anthony, self-described as being Science Itself.

    Have you always been that credulous? Do you have any Bobble Head models of Saint Anthony?
     
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    Bahahahahaha, I dont believe in organized religion.

    Science is provable fact. Religion is belief in the something to make you “feel better”, that has very little basis in fact, kinda like Trumpism
     
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    Agreed! I was raised and educated in the Catholic religion, but lost my religion completely by age 35. Fauci and I have in common only one thing, a Jesuit education.

    By his actions over decades (presuming one is informed of the man's history) Fauci is a wicked man. I wonder if he still goes to confession. Considering the actions regarding the shots, the Jesuit Pope in Rome follows Fauci's ideas and commands, holding private meetings with Bourla, the head of Pfizer.

    Back to the subject at hand, if you believe Fauci's claim that HE is science, you will believe anything. More, you don't really understand science, which demands questions to verify theories. Today's "science" is steeped in censorship, just like the Roman church did in the days of Galileo.

    What Fauci and Pharma and CDC and FDA and the rest preach is not science, it is medical tyranny. I hope that someday you will realize that on your own. :peace:
     
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    Really ? "Medical Tyranny" !

    Where's your medical degree from ? Look up the definition of "science"
     

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