Oath Keepers leader, 10 others charged with seditious conspiracy in Jan. 6 Capitol riot

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, no one ever said these guys were bright :D
     
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    So you two are going to admit that he did not intend for anyone to do anything illegal?
     
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    That's what it's been called across the country when BLM and Antifa and other leftwing groups break into government buildings, including the Capital, in order to stop the functioning of government.

    The protest during the Kavanaugh hearings by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

    Leftist just did so at the Department of Interior. Schumer led them to the SCOTUS banging on the doors trying to get in. And of course when they breach the fences at the White House fighting with the Secret Service there injuring 60 officers and forcing the evacuation of the President and his family.
     
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    The only violence I have seen supported was that committed by BLM and Antifa and other leftwing groups. Who around here or anywhere said they supported the violence at the Capital on Jan 6, all I hear is those who committed crimes there should be prosecuted and they are.
     
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    Actually, in the real world

    18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
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    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    And from the source

    Sounds like the sedition was against ANTIFA.

    And Biden should probably stop referring to Jan 6 as an insurrection if it was instead sedition. Every use of violence against any government officials, from the President to the local police, according to the dictionary is insurrection. Those in government shouldnt throw around charges defined by the dictionary when Federal criminal statutes define the charges
     
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    That was NEVER going to happen, not by these 11 people nor by any of Trumps legal challenges he was attempting. And if for some reason those 11 people had taken over the government for 14 days the Speaker of the House would then be in line and the government would continue but of course that would be moot since the guy in the horned helmet would be running the Congress right, that's what your claiming could have happened.
     
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    It’s just political theater as always with Democrats.
     
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    Maybe they will charge a few more grandmothers with insurrection for being in the Capitol building I'm what clearly appeared to be a guided tour.

    If that's what it takes to do an insurrection go on a gun and tour then there's no hope for this country.
     
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    Is that your opinion across the board? You believe that nobody there was attempting to reach our then-seated VP for less than noble reasons?
     
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    That is just for the conspiracy not the actual sedition so when two people plan to go and protest like at the say Kavanaugh confirmation they are conspiring to committee the sedition.
     
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    Well no there was conspiracy to put feet in Nancy pelosi's desk. Some definite aggregated assaults.

    But it doesn't really matter what is being attempted.
     
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    ????? It did at the Kavanaugh hearings.
    Hundreds of arrests made as anti-Kavanaugh protestors pack Capitol Hill | CNN Politics

    But yeah, they were all democrats who support the swamp so no problem. Much like the BLM/ANTIFA protests that involved breaking into government buildings, be they local police departments or federal court houses. .
     
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    I'm going to predict that no one charged with sedition will actually be convicted of sedition in a trial. I suspect the DoJ will try to pressure these guys to take a plea deal. Plead guilty to sedition in exchange for little or no jail time.
     
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    Someone stole one of her laptops and tried to sell it to Russia. Also, some documents were taken and hundreds of police officers were beaten severely. Why are you trying to reinvent history to whitewash all that?


    Attempt and/or intention is very important in criminal justice. Why would you think it's not?
     
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    I'm not accusing Trump of involvement in this plot.
     
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    Anything to get the moniker of “Sedition” officially placed on conservatives and Republicans. The Democrat plan is to demonize us all as enemies of the state, and the media will fully support them,
     
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    None of this kind of crap mattered in all the BLM riots. Thousands of people beaten and injured dozens of people killed
    Attempt to find? Isn't that like conspiracy to commit mischief?
     
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    I think Republicans are a secondary target. The primary target is Trump, but it's ridiculous to charge Trump with sedition unless other people he supposedly directed were similarly charged. So charge a couple of people with sedition, and tell them plead guilty and get probation, or got to trial and get 20 years. Anyone in their right mind would take the plea deal, but that leaves the charge of sedition with actual convictions. Fairly smart strategy if you're the Stasi.
     
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    Then why didn't the Director of Security for the FBI just say that when Cruz asked her about him?
     
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    Despite your deflection efforts, you won't find any posts in which I state any of that was acceptable. My opinions don't sway based on the letter behind somebody's name.
    I must admit that was, while false, funny. They threatened our then-seated VP's life. Assaulting a law enforcement officer in an form is also a crime and that happened before they even breached the building.

    I will also admit that I am extremely happy to know you aren't part of any these court proceedings. That's a bonus for the rest of us that know how to live without breaking laws and stand behind our judicial system to make those that do, answer for it.
     
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    I fear that yet again the Republican leaders will betray us. They never fail to get on their knees for the Democrats in the end. These spineless bastards HAVE to be replaced.
     
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    So why do much concern for a very mild protest but not fair the real insurrection?
    It was funny because you didn't take it seriously. So why should anybody?
    Sure
    It's not patriotic to stand behind corruption.
     
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    So Epps was saying to march to the capitol, just like Trump. Is Trump guilty too?
     
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    You aren't paying attention. I already stated that I do not condone ANY rioters for any reason anywhere forever and ever so it's not a "me" problem that you want to live in whatever jacked up fantasy of historical revisionism.
    Why would somebody take you seriously? All you do is b!tch and moan staying up Orange Jesus' backside. You are the reason you aren't taken seriously.
    Don't believe it? Go slap a cop in uniform. I'll take your one allotted phone call so I can laugh in your face before hanging up.
    That's a YOU problem as well. I'm not one kissing a career criminal's @ss 24/7. He's a traitor and everybody that supports him is a traitor.

    Don't respond with anything else from your Orange hallucinations.
     
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    So why ignore the house fire to worry with a burning match stick?
    No idea. Don't care.
    Odd response.
    Is this rant supposed to mean something? It seems like autistic screeching.
    What?
     
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