Careful! They are coming for your freedom and next your life!

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Bingo!

I've been engaging with a Progressive "socialist" friend this past couple of weeks, who thankfully is smart enough to have accepted that first crucial reality. MISDIRECTION. Once he'd made that breakthrough, all it took was to ask him whose interests 'urban dependence' would be in. The lightbulb moment happened there. For his entire adult life he's accepted (at face value) that it was in the interests of the common man. He'd literally never asked himself the question. Not even when watching it erode his own life.

We've been talking ever since ... about their dismantling of the power structures of the common man - family, place, private property, industry, community, stability, etc. The articles of security that Progressives have been taught to despise, at their own expense. He's definitely having a mid-life crisis right about now

 

One thing to remember .. these people are NOT socialists. They're elite-serving capitalists, simply using the handy trojan horse of 'caring' to do their work for them. It has nothing to do with partisan politics, in reality. They'll play whichever side is efficient in the moment.

 

Perfectly described - and 100% true.

 

Oh bull crap anyone who reads here knows that.

You folks on the far left here don't come anymore anti-christian.

But you would be the one to step up and project

 

No one is more anti christian than those who claim christian and violate everything the bible says or makes up their own bibles. Own that. Self righteous christian bigots are degenerates, to use a famous word by a self righteous christian in this thread.

 

Thank you for proving my point perfectly.

 

No problem. I am glad we can agree that self righteous christians are bigots and violate the bible.

Which of course, has nothing to do with disliking christians and not Islam. As you faked news tried to imply.

Remember, they both worship the same god. They just view that god differently. But both worship the god of abraham.

 

While I regularly read your anti-christian sentiments I have yet to see utter a critical word against Islam..... Again proving my point very well

 

I haven't railed against christianity either. Just the believers, not the religion, who make up their own version. You know there are hundreds of chrisitan versions. And thousands of interpretations. And millions of differing beliefs.

No 2 christians can agree on a doctrine.

All religions are made up by people who want to control other people.

And the christian religion and the Islam religion have the same god.
Which I noted in the post you responded to. But you decided to ignore.
Because the belief in the same god has different views of this god. Indicating religions and people make up their views of this supposed god.

 

Many Christians tend to be white and conservative so it's no surprise you would rail out against them.

It's not that the left has a problem with religion, it's that they have a problem with the religion that most conservatives tend to be

 

I am white and a former christian. I rail against them because they want to dictate everyone's life.
Instead of letting people live their own lives.

Religions are mostly conservative. They all hate change.


https://www.pewforum.org/religious-...ians/christian/racial-and-ethnic-composition/

 

it sounds like you saved this persons life. I wish there were more like you out there

 

Only tell you look at what they have done and want to do. All but throw the Southern border open to anyone willing to cross it. Cut funds to the police, wanting to eliminate ICE, bail out rioters as soon as they are caught. Some states are even telling police don't act at catching criminals, unless they are committing big crimes. Selling drugs, ripping off stores, assaults and battery, etc, are not the kind of crimes to get arrested for. Then they have most of their states giving illegal criminals sanctuary, They are trying to pass a bill that would bring back most of the illegals that have been convicted of crimes and deported and want us to pay for their plane fair back. They are releasing tens of thousand from prison, even some in for life. What is all this against law and order and for criminals? Their policies only encourage more crime and more criminals. They make America less safe.

Then you have their attacks on our First and Second Amendments. When you really think about it, our concern with the Democratic Party is not extreme at all, but very concerning.

 

Actually, we 'latchkey kids' raised by absentee Boomers learned very early on how to take care of ourselves, and how feckless the children of the Greatest Generation truly are.

 

Yes your right, they listened to Dr. Spock and children have never been the same sense.

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I would call them Christian principles. The responsibilities came later and involved evangelising the principles.
The left agrees with the principle that was quoted above as Biblical (Acts)....that collectives are favoured within Christian thought.

 

Which sections of the writings of Karl Marx trouble you the most?
Would you mind referencing them, or quoting them, or linking to some specific passages?

 

Christians were encouraged to be kind, forgiving, love their neighbour, give to the needy, help the disabled, comfort each other, give to the state but also abide by your own understanding of your relationship with "god".
Perhaps someone could explain how these definitions of what it means to be a Christian, complies with being a right wing individualist who supports capital punishment, dislikes state support for the needy and expects everyone to be an individual along life's road.
In fact I could make a good case for the latter example, the "render unto Caesar" element, to support secularity. Jesus was advising that one acknowledges the state but keeps faith to one's self. To fulfill one's responsibility to the state but that belief in god is a personal issue and should not interfere with state decision-making.
ISTM when Americans discuss the state, they seem to also discuss religion at the same time. As I said somewhere else, this is the way theocracies work and it is a very imperfect guide since the understanding of a faith is so varied ie The Bible teaches that those who adhere to modern leftist principles are evil. (sic). That is wrong on so many levels including the fundamental mistake in homogenising faith and state.
The state has a duty to ALL and EVERY citizen and resident of the country, and NOT to coerce them into conforming to one interpretation of a faith. The biggest example is abortion. The state has no duty to impose specifically interpreted Christian principles upon everyone. The issue is very personal and should be the decision of the individual, NOT the state. The state is not the moral guide of the population. IMO it removes personal freedom when it interferes with such personal issues.
Before anyone mentions laws against such huge personal issues as murder, theft, corruption, physical harm etc, I defend those as the state protecting the population from harm and that that is their principal role.

 

The Bible does not discuss political opinion.
It does however, work at the altitude which discusses the right of everyone to have an opinion on whatever the subject is. IMO this is exemplified by the discussions he had with his disciples on a regular basis.

 

By "their" I assume you are discussing "the left".
Can you elaborate on how they have dismantled family, place, private property, industry, community and stability? I mean specific legislation?
How does living in an urban area assume their support of such aims and objectives? In most countries, urban dwellers end to be further to the left of the political spectrum. Example, they tear down public recognition of the benefits of inhumane treatment of fellow human beings. The "right" criticise this expression of respect for family, community, and place. Or do they criticise it because the values you cite refer to black people?

As an outsider, this sounds like a class/cultural war conflated by resentment of a free choice of where you want to live, and defining some political threat.
I wonder what he Beverly Hillbillies would make of it? I don't remember them hunkering down expecting a national revolution...

 

Not if you're familiar with history.

 

historically speaking that's never done through legislation it's done through culture. Still asking specifically for legislation when you know there's not any seems rather dishonest.

scapegoating black people seems rather disingenuous.

It is. But politics are downstream from culture.

The Beverly hillbillies is the name suggests we're a caricature. Simple unsophisticated folk that can't figure out how to live in a sophisticated City.

You've actually picked a great example of the sophisticated City dwellers telling everyone else how stupid they are.

Believe it or not in those days when that show aired people from rural communities knew what a swimming pool was they didn't call it a cement pond.

 

You see the only problem there is you're trying to put a label on conservatism and you do not know what each individual conservative supports.

I think the Bible also says something about not judging others.

Are you saying that liberals do not support capital punishment? Then they would be going against the principal of an eye for an eye wouldn't they ?

 

Please take my posts as written. I did not scapegoat black people...I ASKED about the possibility that the right in urban areas criticised the left in a certain incident because THEY were less concerned about the family history of black people and more concerned about their OWN white (wealthy) urban culture. It as a suggestive question, not a statement. (I was referring to pulling down a statue of a slave trader in Bristol UK which made the city wealthy. It was criticised by the right leaning urban public and I used it as an example to counter your suggestion that those in urban environments are left leaning and a danger to your ideals. It was what you would call The Left who had been complaining about it for years on the grounds that it represented the destruction of BLACK historical stability and a praising of WHITE stability, community etc, not to mention the value of human beings ).ie what you call your community must include EVERYONE, not just those who agree politically with you.
Now you suggested that the left was eroding your selected non-material living standards. OK...if there are no specific legislative examples you can suggest, how about cultural ones? What are they pushing/suggesting/doing that erodes your list? I used a cultural example which suggested that urban dwellers are NOT destroying your values, but supporting those values across the society they live in.
Now can you offer an example of where urban "lefties" have damaged elements of your list?