British royal family could face its biggest crisis, as civil suit against Prince Andrew looms

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    No more Purple Reign

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    You're just repeating, but not responding to how my source says that the case hasn't started.
     
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    You can tell the case has started because MOTIONS HAVE BEEN FILED. You can't file a motion in a case without the case being started.
    This is really and truly basic stuff.

    Your 'source' CITES the case itself.

    https://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/2022-01/21CV6702 JAN 11 2022 0900.pdf

    ^ This is hyperlinked in the article. Its the judge's decision. See that case number? See how there is a judge's decision?
    That's how you know the case has started.
     
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    And I sourced that in that process in the UK, it can be judged it's not enforceable.
     
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    I spot a number op page one. It doesn't say it's a case.
    My source stands.
     
  6. Reality

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    Not if he brings his ass voluntarily before the Court the judgement comes from as the link showed. And he brought his ass voluntarily by making a motion to dismiss without a special appearance.

    That case number? You can search it in the CASE RECORDS because its a CASE that is ONGOING.
     
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    Your source with that so called case number, says who was there. And he aint on that list.
     
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  8. Reality

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    Dude... that's HIS motion to dismiss. When you cause YOUR lawyer to file a substantive motion in a court case without a special appearance, you've bound yourself to the jurisdiction of the Court.

    This is basic ****.
     
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    I do not have the same access to US Court decisions you will have. Please post a link to the actual decision.
     
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  12. kazenatsu

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    Are we to believe this girl (who was 17 at that time) was paid money to have sex with the prince, and now, all these years later, she feels like she wasn't paid ENOUGH money and is going back to the courts to try to get MORE money from the person she had sex with?

    This lawsuit seems kind of laughable to me.

    In my opinion, if the courts decide to award her more money, they are just condoning prostitution.

    I thought when a man pays a female money to have sex, that is bad. So wouldn't it just be more bad if the woman was paid more money?
     
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    This girl was groomed from the age of 14.
    You are condoning child abuse with your victim shaming.
     
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    IMO it is unwise to accuse all trafficked girls (as she was) of prostitution.
    I suppose one could accuse Epstein etc of elaborate pimping for the uber-rich and influential, but does that make the girls prostitutes or victims?
    I also don't know what threats he used to keep the girls "in-line".

    Perhaps more importantly, it was Andrew who "profited" by this circus, who was a friend of Epstein's, who didn't ask questions, went along with what most intelligent people would see as "bizarre" because he was sure it would never be found out, (because he would implicate other important people and blow his own cover.)

    Of them all I do think VG was the least guilty, given her background and circumstances.
     
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    Monte, do you think this is just them "going through the motions" or the real deal?

    To me, it's curious that that hookers and pimps are arrested and imprisoned all the time but the really "big" people just have rumors hanging over their heads until they are too old to prosecute, if ever, (or, basically "life in prison" is about 9 minutes after the sentencing ;-).
     
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    Somewhere in cyberspace, there may or may not be posts from various people stating, without hesitation or remorse, that all the men that received settlements from the Vatican because of childhood sexual abuse by pedophile priests "deserved what they got" since they were awarded those judgments.

    Further, some posters on the internet also say that every woman is always lying about sexual harassment and sexual assault.

    I'm not speaking of anyone here at PF, of course. Just in general, you know. ;-0
     
  17. Montegriffo

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    It's the Royal Family publicly distancing themselves from him.
    It's claimed he handed in his titles voluntarily but I feel the influence of Charles behind this move.
    Charles has waited a long time for the top job and he doesn't want the institution sullied by his brother now he's so close to switching from HRH to HM.
     
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    Prince Andrew accuser welcomes decision to let legal case continue

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59991749?xtor=AL-72-[partner]-[gnl.newsletters]-[headline]-[news]-[bizdev]-[isapi]&xtor=ES-213-[BBC News Newsletter]-2022January14-[top+news+stories]


    He has now been stripped of his titles, , and patronages.....(all have been "returned to the queen".......He is still "Prince" but not HRH...


    He is fighting this as a civilian now.

    She (the accuser ) is determined t o have all this exposed in public court........to show that no one (the so called entitled )is beyond the law ........(that is what she says ).
     
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    Yes...Charles and William , together with the queen got Andrew to give up his titles and patronages......."voluntarily"...

    BBC has been reporting on this in as much detail as is available.
     
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    How was Andrew to know that she had been groomed? (or whatever it was you claim)
    You are aware that this woman already accepted a settlement from Epstein? She probably already blew through all that money and wants more.
     
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    Royal damage control: Why the queen left Prince Andrew to fight case as private citizen

    Queen Elizabeth’s decision to strip Prince Andrew of his military titles and patronages is just the latest move for the monarchy in what has been a tough two years for the crown, writes Alexander Smith in an analysis for NBC News. “It has become tremendously damaging in terms of the reputation of the whole monarchy, not just Andrew, so the queen really did have to make a decision,” said one royal expert.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...rw4BBjIN3zPug/QDWCtWatFPTTY0cA/wB8JJ05w8BAAA=


    Tough love?? Royal style??;-)
     
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    Apparently pointing out in a previous post that the link has already been posted and a poster inquiring after a link should've seen it already is a personal attack.

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    His defense literally equated to: I'm one of the people who molested you with epstein and you had a deal with epstein so even though I'm not named in it I get to use that deal.
    IE: Yes I did it, so the **** what?
    Not a good look. He can't claim innocence, and in fact admits his guilt.
     
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    Because she was a 17 yr old girl being offered up to him by a billionaire who kept underage girls around for 'massages'.
    Is Andrew named in that agreement? Did he sign it? No? Gonna present a bit of an issue for him to shelter under it then.
     
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    Is that an I HOP pancake?
     

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