Abortion Leading Global Cause of Death in 2021 with 43 Million Killed

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  1. AARguy

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    Now THERE is a blinding flash of the obvious!... what does that have to do with children, though?
     
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    I don't care what ****ing bathroom you use, just don't use the one that has little girls in them. They don't need to see your "female penis". Use the family designated rest rooms and stop bitching.
     
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    You are dropping context and misidrntifying concepts. Of course the medical professional will call it "child" when talking to expecting parents, but what noise you choose to make to refer to a concept does not change the nature of what it is. A fetus is neither human being nor child.

    Calling your kid "honey" does not mean they become honey. It is just sweet baby-talk expressing affection.
     
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    Oh, I see. So words mean different things depending on your audience. So if a young person in a womb is referred to in a conversation with the parent its a "child" but to a stranger he/she is a "blob"? And to a Planned Parenthood employee the unborn person is a "source of parts and income"? And to a research lab the child is "stem cells"? Ok... I get it. Germany once did something like that with fully grown Jewish people. They morphed them from people to things to ashes.

    My kids were all my beloved children the moment the pregnancy test came back positive.

    What does your constant reference to your sexual partner and how you address him/her have to do with unborn people?
     
  5. mswan

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    No. I love life, but I don’t fear death.
     
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    Midwife is a very acceptable term still used in many parts of the world. It describes someone trained in midwifery, not obstetrics but midwifery.
     
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    Actually yes they do - example midwife
     
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    Is that like with magic potions thrown in the campfire, headdresses, and dances to the Goddess of Afterbirth?
     
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    """""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

    If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

    That makes no sense.


    Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

    Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.
     
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    You and I fundamentally disagree with the reality of the situation. I don't prescribe to the fairy tale notion that it's not a human life unique and valid that would eventually grow into a human adult as everyone else does if given time and nutrition.

    So she IS a mother, having created a unique human being. That's the reality of the situation.
     
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    It sounds to me like you're still WAY happy with imposing your beliefs on all American women using the force of government.
     
  12. mswan

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    You clearly haven’t followed my posts.

    Try reviewing my post #146
     
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    ...and they wouldn't be any smarter !!! LOL!

    One even compres the price of contraception to the price of a jock strap !!!

    Must think a jock strap IS contraception !!!!:roflol::roflol:
     
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    Midwives of the 21st Century



    You’ve come a long way, Baby.

    In today’s world of high technology, you might think that midwives were a thing of the past. Not so; midwifery is still going strong.

    Midwifery care is one of the oldest medical practices known to man. It is mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible as well as in the recorded history of the Egyptian Pharaohs. In antiquity, childbirth was the leading cause of death in women, and it was the skill of the midwife that ensured the survival of the clan. Because of such an important role, midwives held a place of significant standing and were rewarded both financially and socially for their important work.

    Initially, midwives were primarily involved in the processes of childbirth, but the role has grown to providing personalized care to women of all ages—not just pregnant women. The extensive training of today’s midwives produces nurse-midwives who understand the distinctive physical and emotional needs of women.

    Midwives appreciate that the family structure can affect a woman’s individual healthcare needs, and they take the time to ask questions and listen.

    The 21st century midwife is a health care professional who provides care to childbearing women during pregnancy, labor and birth, and during the postpartum period. Midwives also help care for the newborn and assist the mother with breastfeeding.

    A midwife’s training includes measures aimed at preventing health problems in pregnancy, the detection of abnormal conditions, the procurement of medical assistance when deemed necessary, and the execution of emergency measures in the absence of medical help.

    In addition to providing care to women during pregnancy and birth, many midwives also provide:

    • Primary care to women
    • Well-woman care related to reproductive health
    • Annual gynecological exams
    • Family planning
    • Menopausal care
    While midwives are trained to identify and deal with anomalies as well as certain high risk situations, they are specialists in low-risk pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum. Obstetricians, in contrast, are specialists in illness related to childbearing and in surgery.

    The two professions—midwifery and obstetrics—are complementary.

    Midwives refer women to general practitioners or obstetricians when a pregnant woman requires care beyond the midwives’ area of expertise. These professions work together to provide care to childbearing women. Midwives are trained to handle certain more difficult deliveries, including breech births, twin births and births where the baby is in a posterior position, using non-invasive techniques.



    For low risk births, compared with obstetricians, midwives offer lower maternity care cost, lower intervention rates, reduced mortality and morbidity as a result of fewer interventions, and fewer recovery complications.

    For more information about midwives, read our article Really, What is a Midwife?

    All About Women obstetricians and midwife specialists provide compassionate well-woman and pregnancy care for women and families like you in Gainesville, Lake City and surrounding areas.
     
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    Good point. We even talked about that.

    Everything you've been saying sounds like what is said by those who want to create even harsher laws against autonomy in personal healthcare decision making.

    I don't see you promoting the change in direction you claim to advocate.

    So, it's easy to add your Republicanism and your statements and consider that you do back the Republican push for ever harsher laws against women.

    This issue IS about the laws - the methodology. It's not really about how one should define an embryo, whether an embryo should have legal standing, etc., etc.

    And, I don't see you opposing the laws or even just promoting your own views on methodology.
     
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    Well, it’s not my problem that you can’t see it. You’re stuck in a bubble.
     
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    I'm glad my wife had an MD and not a "midwife" for our three kids. WHEW!!!
     
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    AARguy said:
    Midwife? You live in a village in the Dark Ages? We have hospitals with doctors and nurses now."""




    I guess you couldn't bother to read the post that proved you so wrong :)

    Midwives of the 21st Century


    You’ve come a long way, Baby.

    In today’s world of high technology, you might think that midwives were a thing of the past. Not so; midwifery is still going strong.

    Midwifery care is one of the oldest medical practices known to man. It is mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible as well as in the recorded history of the Egyptian Pharaohs. In antiquity, childbirth was the leading cause of death in women, and it was the skill of the midwife that ensured the survival of the clan. Because of such an important role, midwives held a place of significant standing and were rewarded both financially and socially for their important work.

    Initially, midwives were primarily involved in the processes of childbirth, but the role has grown to providing personalized care to women of all ages—not just pregnant women. The extensive training of today’s midwives produces nurse-midwives who understand the distinctive physical and emotional needs of women.

    Midwives appreciate that the family structure can affect a woman’s individual healthcare needs, and they take the time to ask questions and listen.

    The 21st century midwife is a health care professional who provides care to childbearing women during pregnancy, labor and birth, and during the postpartum period. Midwives also help care for the newborn and assist the mother with breastfeeding.

    A midwife’s training includes measures aimed at preventing health problems in pregnancy, the detection of abnormal conditions, the procurement of medical assistance when deemed necessary, and the execution of emergency measures in the absence of medical help.

    In addition to providing care to women during pregnancy and birth, many midwives also provide:


    • Primary care to women
    • Well-woman care related to reproductive health
    • Annual gynecological exams
    • Family planning
    • Menopausal care
    While midwives are trained to identify and deal with anomalies as well as certain high risk situations, they are specialists in low-risk pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum. Obstetricians, in contrast, are specialists in illness related to childbearing and in surgery.

    The two professions—midwifery and obstetrics—are complementary.

    Midwives refer women to general practitioners or obstetricians when a pregnant woman requires care beyond the midwives’ area of expertise. These professions work together to provide care to childbearing women. Midwives are trained to handle certain more difficult deliveries, including breech births, twin births and births where the baby is in a posterior position, using non-invasive techniques.



    For low risk births, compared with obstetricians, midwives offer lower maternity care cost, lower intervention rates, reduced mortality and morbidity as a result of fewer interventions, and fewer recovery complications.

    For more information about midwives, read our article Really, What is a Midwife?

    All About Women obstetricians and midwife specialists provide compassionate well-woman and pregnancy care for women and families like you in Gainesville, Lake City and surrounding areas.
     
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    I'm viewing it from the standpoint of whether your message is getting through.
     
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    If they're not human what are they giraffes? And it is alive. It grows and develops only things that are alive can do that.
     
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    The people who support this Holocaust think that it's okay to kill someone if you can't see their face. Further than that it's not a person if they can't see it's face.
     
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    I don’t think pro-abortionists even care anymore that they're killing innocent new life. It’s at the fringe of being a death cult.
     
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    I really think it's tribal. They have to support abortion because you and I don't. And they're in the other tribe.

    I think guys that support it want to so they can bully women into aborting their babies so they don't have to take care of them. These are the people that freak out over the idea of responsibility. Basically adult children that have unprotected sex.

    People like you and I pointing out their hedonism makes them feel guilt.

    She didn't need some does not make people happy but the people practicing it don't want to but go because they lose the only point in their life that isn't misery.

    I think it's more than a death cult. I think it's broken and lost people. They are rebelling against something without even understanding it.
     
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    I don't believe anti-abortionists care whether the fetus is destined to kill the woman, or that the fetus is not going to survive past birth.
     
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    Who said that?
    No one.
     
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