Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    There's no way to say that for certain. Another "possibility" is she would have been shot before she ever got there. The military/Guard are not policemen, they deliver deadly force, had they been there facing the violence of that day, there probably would have been MANY more deaths.
     
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    NOPE! He wasn't, he did not!
     
  3. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so it's their fault that she broke through the broken door in order to get to the congress folks that she was yelling threats to.

    Good God, did you even think that one through?
     
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    She was not even through the window... he was hidden behind a pillar ... she had no idea were she was shot from or who....and yes the job of the security is the CP and overseer Pelosi and ilk was to be prepared AHEAD OF time...not start screaming for the guard when the breach happened there was adequate forewarning and the offer of guards before hand.... no excuses... it was there job and they failed...
    They are responsible for the security of the Capitol... ""meet the safety and security needs of the Congress, the staff, and the many visitors who come to the United States Capitol each day."""
    https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight/congressional-committees
     
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    That just doesn't jell with the vido footage.

    The Chief of the Capitol Police, the Sargent at Arms of the Senate and the Sargent at Arms of the House all lost their jobs; THEY were responsible and THEY paid.
     
  6. Kal'Stang

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    I view it as a justified shooting. I would have shot her had she been breaking into my house. I'm sure you would have to.
     
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    The buck stops with Pelosi...the queen is not to be questioned...there was plenty of forewarning and guards were offered days before...they paid WITH their jobs when Pelosi is the one that needs to be subpoena'd by her own committee and questioned...

    The video shows his readied gun was up and aimed at Ashli..... several seconds before he shot...it was an ambush of an unarmed and defenseless 5'2" 130 lb woman who could have been subdued with non-lethal weapons or methods...
     
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    So you're claiming this riot and breech of the Capitol was known because it was a planned event. Hmm.
     
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    The Chain of Command for the Guard is through the White House. <-period

    Officer Byrd had his pistol at the ready a long time before Ms. Babbitt jumped up into the window. Her Co-insurrectionists yelled it out plainly several times.
     
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    Nice try my liberal friend... spin it all you can... the crowd size was known in advance by the very people responsible for crowd management... the CP and overseer Pelosi and ilk.... they failed at their job.... no excuses...having to get a permit for the rally makes it a "planned event" known by all, but you are going to try and spin another way I see by calling it a riot.... such silly liberal games....
     
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    Trump approved the guard several days ahead. It is illegal for Trump to send the guard to the Capitol.

    He was hidden from her sight and ready to ambush her...if his intent was to subdue her he would have been in front of her... so obviously his intent was to shoot her...from a position of concealment.
     
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    If she was breaking into your house would you have shot her? Don't equivocate. Don't spin. Put it plain. Would you have shot her? Yes or no?
     
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    Benedict Donald approved the Guard to protect his mob.

    Lt. Byrd was in cover, not hiding. He would have been stupid and derelict in his duty to have put himself, alone, in front of, and in jepordy of incapacitating injury, that mob of violent insurrectionists.
     
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    The far right tries to change history and call it a Protest

    It was an attempt to take over our Government by force ie an Insurrection

    Riot 2.jpg
     
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    I am not the one claiming there was forwarning and guards requested days before. You did.
    Why would you think there was a need for more security? You brought it up.
     
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    Link? Or the usual BS.
    .The Secretary of the Army activates the DC guard.
     
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    He was not hidden. You can hear people yelling gun in the video.
     
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    This wasn't at your house.
     
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    With no threatening motion towards him and no weapon in her hands, she just standing there. No one even close to her. Why would it have been justified.
     
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    Irrelevant. The same reasoning applies.
     
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    The CP and SWAT team had clear shots at all those standing next to her, the crowds could have been mowed down in the rotunda, the violence against the police was outside why no one shot and killed there. I'm sure there were lots of "clean shots" all about but no other police officer use their weapon. Heck Byrd didn't even have a clean shot he stuck his arm through a window and then shot blindly at another window he had no idea who he was shooting at.
     
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    Then let's see ALL THE EVIDENCE and reports concerning this homicide and have Byrd give a sworn statement. Have him explain why when he was behind a door that was blockaded with furniture with no one else on the other side in imminent danger did he use lethal force rather than attempt other means as require by the law. Why didn't he ascertain the person even appeared to be armed. Let's hear all the radio calls so we know what was being said like about the officers already on the other side of the door.

    There is a MASSIVE DOJ on going investigation into the protesters and this committee is running a concurrent one, probably unconstitutional, so why don't they too investigate the shooting. Let the Republicans investigate that and the internal events leading up to Jan 6.
     
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    Nope. Ashli alone is responsible for her own death. Nobody made her climb through that window. She alone made that decision that cost her life.
     
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    He did not shoot blindly, watch the video, for goodness sake. Until they went through the breech in the last bastion between the mob, they were not an imminent threat to Congress; once they crossed that line they became an imminent threat and had to be stopped. That job fell to Lt. Byrd.
     
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    Because she was with the other dipshit mob that broke the glass in the first place. She was also yelling threats to not only the cops, but the congress folks beyond that broken glass.

    Jesus, are you seriously trying to say that you would welcome her with a warm hug if she did the same to your place of dwelling or employment?
     

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