Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    If you are looking for an appeal to authority you won't get anywhere quoting government sources - particularly WHO. None of these outfits have credibility with the right. We pay attention to private sector doctors instead.
     
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    If you have alternative expertise to offer, please don't hide it.

    Please name your preferred sources of medical science.
     
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    My preferred sources are what doctors who actually practice medicine say. I have nothing to offer WHO. It should be shut down.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You seem incapable of contriving any alternative to the consensus of all legitimate public health authorities that are respected by the vast majority of all your unidentified "doctors who actually practice medicine."

    The data confirms that the unvaccinated are far more likely to require intensive care and far more likely to die from Covid than the vaccinated.

    No matter how ideologically pc you need to be, you can't refute the empirical evidence.

    The weird worshipers don't seem able to handle the Cry Baby Loser parroting Dr. Fauci's message:

     
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    .... Definitely an Unhealthy Obsession
     
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    I am unvaxxed and recently caught covid. I immediately began knocking down the viral load with sea salt nasal rinses and peroxide gargling and peroxide in the ears. I also took Quercetine, zinc, C, E, Multi, profen, and some quinine in the form of cinchona bark. I have had hardly any symptoms outside of a little more fatigue and decreased smell and taste.
    My vaxxed neighbor also caught covid and his symptoms were worse.
    Whether you are vaxxed or not you need a game plan ready to knock down the viral load.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It appears you cannot distinguish between a real scientist and physician like Dr. Peter McCullough and a snakeoil salesman and career bureaucrat and criminal like Fauci. Fear not Natty, you are not alone. The true believers in the Cult of Fauci are numerous, though perhaps the numbers are in decline.
     
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    It all boils down to your make up. Physically fit people have died from COVID, elderly people shook the virus off. On the whole though, COVID is very age related where it's more dangerous to the old, getting less severe the younger the person.

    And that one story always appears that fulfils a person's agenda. So an unvaxxed person highlights a vaxxed death or transmission, and vice versa.

    People just need to stop trying to score points and just get on with their lives.
     
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    My preferred sources are what doctors who actually practice medicine say. I have nothing to offer WHO. It should be shut down.
    I agree that vaccination results in fewer hospitalization and deaths. I didn't say otherwise. The "doctors who actually practice medicine" all agree with that. The rest of your post is partisan garbage.
     
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    If you prefer anecdotal evidence to empirical data that is compiled, analyzed, and assessed by qualified public health statisticians, you should be aware that those who provide you with the former largely form their conclusions based upon the latter. No one individual physician's personal experience is statistically significant.
     
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    Stop criticizing me for things I didn't say. It is pointless and will always get a negative response for me.
     
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    Of course, I did not criticize you or accuse you of saying anything.

    I said, "If you prefer anecdotal evidence to empirical data that is compiled, analyzed, and assessed by qualified public health statisticians..."
     
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    Bah!
     
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    More supportive data:

    Three studies released Friday offered more evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are standing up to the omicron variant, at least among people who received booster shots.

    They are the first large U.S. studies to look at vaccine protection against omicron, health officials said.

    The papers echo previous research — including studies in Germany, South Africa and the U.K. — indicating available vaccines are less effective against omicron than earlier versions of the coronavirus, but also that boosters significantly improve protection...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ron-cdc-studies-show/ar-AAT0IoS?ocid=BingNews
     
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    I understand all of that. I didn't say otherwise. Please knock it off.
     
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    Unvaccinated adults aged 65 or older who contracted the coronavirus were 49 times more likely to require hospitalization than seniors who had received booster vaccine doses, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Unimmunized adults in that age group were also 17 times more likely to be admitted to hospital than those who had received either two shots of a mRNA vaccine or one Johnson & Johnson dose. Meanwhile, unvaccinated people between 50 and 64 years of age were 44 times more likely to need hospitalization compared with their boosted counterparts.

    The CDC figures, drawn from between October and December 2021, provide a real-world snapshot of the efficacy of commonly used vaccines in the United States.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...d-than-boosted-peers/ar-AAT01Dh?ocid=BingNews
     
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    The left has accused Trump of lying about everything, what's changes to believe him about the vaccines?
     
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    "The left" that festers in your noggin must be very excited about the Cry Baby Loser's most guarded secrets being exposed as a consequence of his losing so many appeals lately.

    His abandoning his crackpot base by parroting the sound medical advice of Dr Fauci is obviously calculated to play to well-educated white suburbanites.
     
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    How are they failed?
     
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    How would the vaccines make people more vulnerable to infection?
     
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    ~ We don't know yet. mRNA "vaccines " are an experiment. The first " vaccine " that does not produce immunity. However rest assured Fauci will soon put a silly spin on this annoying and unexpected phenomenon .

    Vaccine Glossary of Terms | CDC
    Community immunity: A situation in which a sufficient proportion of a population is immune to an infectious disease through vaccination and/or prior illness ...
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    Well we don't even know IF the vaccines make people more vulnerable to infection, let alone HOW they do.
     
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    ~ I agree. But the "experts " will pretend to know everything and explain it all to calm the restless and curious. Of course another round of shots will follow to keep consistent . :aww:
     
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    Covid death rate Florida - 2,960 per million
    Covid death rate BC - 480 per million

    6.17 times higher in Florida than in British Columbia.

    Florida deaths would be about 10,303 instead of 63,569 if Florida had just done as well as BC.

    DeSantis is pushing an attack on the public school system...

    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/PDF

    ... to change the channel so we don't focus on why so many Floridians died of covid.
     
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    Do you really think posting what looks like a ransom note is going to make your misinformation carry more weight?
     
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