Cop Who Killed Ashli Babbitt Never Interviewed By Investigators, Now Back In Charge Of House Securit

You're on, do it.

 

Preventing a further breach of the perimeter by an angry mob counts as both of the bolded. Square biz.

I can't help if other people at other times act foolishly or break the law. That does not allow Ms. Babbitt to lead an angry mob through a secure perimeter by breaking and entering. Go see my posts in the summer riot threads, or see my response here: **** them, they should've been shot too.

A riot tends to form spontaneously. The people who join it can have an earnest desire to accomplish a goal, and can be simply too stupid, ignorant, excited, etc to notice they're not going about it in the best way.
Humans don't always pick the best method to accomplish a goal, even highly rational, intelligent, and knowledgeable humans.

 

Ashli Babbit was probably killed by mistake. When was the last time you heard of a police officer, who had justification for using lethal force against a citizen, only firing a single shot? If he had justification for lethal force against Ms. Babbit, he had that same justification against a dozen others at the same moment. Why only one? No one in our lifetime will ever know.

 

I have wondered the same thing. Maybe, he was also considering the crowd and possible collateral damage. He was also quite close.

 

There was only one other time in my recent memory that a police officer only fired a single shot, and it was a mistake where the officer thought they were firing a taser. The only difference is, that officer immediately admitted and regretted her mistake. Had she instead made the case for justification, she would have probably beaten the charge and perhaps been held up as a hero, too.

My feeling in the Babbitt case is that the officer that killed her did so by mistake. That explains why she was the only person shot, and also why there was only a single shot fired. She was certainly not the most threatening person on scene there that day. She was just the unlucky recipient of bad trigger discipline, imho.

 

It was an obvious intentional shooting... Byrd laid in wait in an ambush before he shot... Ashli never seen who shot her or where it came from... She did not get through the window. It was not a justifiable shooting. He fired one shot because he did not have a second shot... she was not there anymore... she fell back out of the window...

Who authorized the use of lethal force.... non-lethal weapons were available..

 

I have repeated condemned the actions of the 6 Jan. rioters so after reading your comment, I'd like your opinion on a few questions.

Re:

1. Do you really think that the majority of the Jan. 6 rioters who were primarily wandering around the building taking selfies and waving flags should should have been shot dead?

2. If the police were right in killing Ms. Babbet, would they have been equally justified in firing on the far more destructive and deadlier BLM rioters, arsonists and looters?

3. I know that sometimes a mob takes on a mind of its own but do you really think the 6 Jan. crowd would have murdered any of the politicians they were seeking if they had caught them?

Finally, I feel that just about everyone on the right is justified in feeling that there is an egregious double standard in the treatment and publicity of the 6 Jan. rioters and the BLM rioters.

Thanks,

 

Surely, those were the oddest selfies I've ever seen.

False equivalency fed by your right-wing propaganda machine.

Absolutely YES! There's no reason not to believe they would have injured or killed any politician they would have encountered.

Once again, change the freaking channel! You're being fed a mountain of lies and gobble it up to feed your hate. The right needs to grow the eff up! But considering how far this mania has gone, all we can do is watch you kill yourselves in devotion to one megalomaniacal idiot.

 

What does Michael Byrd and Alec Baldwin have in common?

They both shot and killed an unarmed white woman, neither have been charged for the shooting, and Democrats adore them.

 

1) If you're rioting, you are fair game. Does that mean every single one needed to be shot? No, as illustrated if you tag a few often the rest will disperse or surrender. You just have to tag the right ones at the right moments, where their loss is demoralizing not inspiring. Certainly every single one that tried to breach those doors with ms Babbitt was fair game while doing that.
2) As stated in my previous post: Yes as I stated in threads regarding those riots during the summer.
3) Yes, I absolutely think an angry mob chanting "hang mike pence" would've started with Pence and moved on to others they realized they reviled more if they'd gotten their hands on them. People don't take much of a push to go completely tear you apart with their bare hands savage when in large numbers.

Sure, there is a double standard. But that doesn't change the price of butter IE both instances are over the line everyone can plainly see, and if you dog on one set of steppers not the other you're just as bad as the group you're going easy on. To say nothing of the fact that whataboutism's are intrinsically lacking in logic.

 

IDK what all this person you're speaking to is consuming, but if you can't admit that a riot is a riot, you sir are one with a problem.

 

It's funny how months of BLM-Antifa rioting, which was more deadlier and more costly, not one rioter was shot and killed by police. But there is one riot on January 6th, and an officer shot and killed a rioter. Why is it that all the cops during the months of BLM-Antifa rioting did not shoot and kill rioters and all the Capitol officers, except one, that day did not shoot and kill rioters? Also, may you please provide me an example post of you promoting the idea of killing BLM rioters. I mean, that rioting lasted for months, so there should be a myriad of examples.

 

Self defense REQUIRES someone be in IMMINENT, immediate, threat for their life or serious bodily harm. Who was Babbitt IMMINENTLY threatening with their life or serious bodily harm?

Post me a map of the Capital pointing out this perimeter that was established and the radio call to all police to open fire on anyone who breeched it and where in their security manuals it states they have legal authority to do so.

 

Then why weren't they shot by the officers on her side of the door or outside the Capital? Who was in IMMINENT threat of death as she showed her shoulder in the window?

Thank you for admitting it was an unlawful use of lethal force then.

I guaranty you just two shits wouldn't even make a dent in the load your statement is carrying.

 

Like I said I already have and the Democrats are refusing to turn over the records and nothing absurd just the facts, Babbitt did not pose an IMMINENT threat of death or serious bodily harm to ANYONE including Byrd who was barricade behind a huge door with furniture stacked against it. This was a homicide and a use of lethal force by a law enforcement officer and we the citizens deserve and have a right to see the results of the investigation and Byrd needs to be questioned by law enforcement under threat of penalty if he lies or refuses as a law enforcement officer.

 

There were none behind that broken door including Byrd who were in any imminent danger of life or limb. If she posed such a threat why didn't the officers on HER SIDE kill her?

 

False, it was a fiery but mostly peaceful protest of no consequence.

 

Those officers left because shooting someone on that side of the door with those angry dipshit traitors far outnumbering them would be tjeir end, so they fall back.

Let's say one of those cops on her side shot her when she climbed up that broken door. How many shots do you think they can get off before they are overtaken by that mob of angry traitors?

Let's also stop pretending that Babbitt, along with all of the other angry traitors were threataning the folks beyond that broken door. Pretending that all they wanted to do was come in and all join hands and sing kumbaya is a terrible argument.

 

that and someone on the other side of the door was yelling he has a gun

now in hindsight, that probably meant the cop.... but the cop would not of know that

someone is shouting he has a gun and someone is climbing through the window to get to them.... clean shot

 

Speaking of "fiery."

 

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Cults are dangerous and got Babbitt killed.

 

It's outrageous that Michael Byrd has not been charged for shooting and killing an unarmed woman.

 

Or 'fafo'. Sadly, she did.