Half of Nashville COVID hospitalizations ‘incidental’; admitted for other conditions

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  1. fmw

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    You have more trust in government than I have. It would be more accurate to say that we don't have data about deaths other than those provided by government. There are many reasons to question the numbers, we just don't have any other numbers. I can assure you that some private sector doctors questions some of those numbers based on their personal experience. I'm not disputing what you said. I'm just trying to temper the trust in government.
     
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    Government has no business trying to keep up with all budget demands. It should never ever engage in debt or inflation to mollify political pressure. There are a very few emergencies that might call for these measures but what we have going on is corrupt.
     
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    Surge in property taxes was caused by FLOYD-20 not COVID-19.
    All those trashed police cars have price tags attached to them and the local governments do need to replace them.
     
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    The CDC in their own admission(S) is why I don't trust them LMFAO :)
     
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    On Fox News, CDC’s Walensky stated; Among a few hospitals we’ve contacted, “Up to 40%.....”

    Geeeeeze, we can’t aggregate a national average based on two hospital reports.

    In addition, in June, 2021, DeSantis Department of Health reported over 90,000 Cumulative Hospitalizations, and a week later, DoH stopped reporting number of Hospitalizations

    Ironically, 5 months later, Jan 10, 2022, Carlson Hospitalization Tracking project reported that Florida had 95,000 cumulative Hospitalizations/Covid19 patients.

    Covid19 Patients.....a new term, however, same as “due to Covid”

    Knowingly or unknowingly, the term “with Covid has been used by most reporting entities.
     
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    Only two hospitals? Here is a few more then two, lemme know when you reach a LOGICAL retort ;)

    hospitals incentivized to use covid as cause of death
    8,800,000 Results
    hospitals incentivized to use covid as cause of death - Bing
     
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    true, it's usually the blood clots, or breathing issues that get one admitted, not covid itself
     
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    Link?
     
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    You are incorrect. Being healthy is your best bet. For those who have already developed illnesses, getting vaccinated is their best bet.
     
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    Sorry but this information is flooding airwaves

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/current-covid-patients-icu

    oh! And let’s look at vaccination rates shall we?
    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

    Explains why America is still having so many admitted to hospital - only 75% vaccinated.

    We hit over 90% vaccinated a while back then reopened the country and our numbers have surged but the admissions to ICU have either been unvaccinated or very elderly with some rare exception
     
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    And out of 9.6 BILLION doses of vaccine that have been administered globally - how many recipients have died?
    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
     
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    That is because it is an endothelial disease (disrupts the lining of your blood vessels)
     
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    How many healthy individuals have died from Covid ? 60% x US population (330 million) vaxed / 20,000 dead = 1 in 10,000 chance of dead.


    Now you tell me what the odds non immune compromized - no comorb - non Obese - middle aged individual dying from Omicron is.
     
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    You think that the people who got vaxxed and not dying are all people who are the picture of health?
    You can say all you want that the people who are dying from corona all got these other conditions.
    But the fact remains, that the dying part ends up to be overwhelmingly present by the unvaxxed peeps with corona.
    It is so, since the people who are vaxxed are a majority in the US, but a minority in the hospitals. It just is.

    The scientific explanation is that the vaccinations work.
    Your explanation is probably that it's all a conspiracy.
     
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    What scientific explanation - you have not proffered one .. and who said the vax didn't work ... work for what .. stated numerous times it works very well for immune compromized folks.

    The scientific fact is that people dying from "Covid" 95% have 1 or more comorbidity. You don't like the number .. what can I tell you.
    Folks that are dying are both vaxed and unvaxed .. half of which are not even dying from Covid as per the Nashville link posted previously --

    but never have I denied that unvaxed from Group B are dying from covid at a higher rate than Vaxed "Group B" .. and it makes perfect sense that this would be the case .. "Scientific Sense" .. folks who have problems producing antibodies benef greately from the vax.

    The "Big Lie" - generalization fallacy - is taking this statistical artifact and applying it to all unvaxed .. as if this is not academic Fraud .. in every sense of the word .. by definition.

    So quit parroting this lie.. and start listening to the science.
     
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    Here are Tennessee’s most current Hospitalization Numbers reported by their Department of Health;

    As of Jan 12, 2022

    Currently hospitalized DUE TO COVID; 2,879

    As of Jan 17, 2022

    Total hospitalized DUE TO COVID; 43,159

    _________

    Nationally, here’s the number of our Currently Hospitalized DUE TO COVID

    As of Jan 17, 2022

    135,652.......DUE TO COVID
     
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    First, let me be clear about something... I absolutely hate property taxes, aka "rent". The reason I hate them is because it means the State, and not the alleged "owner" actually owns our homes, and it amounts to a rent payment that can NEVER be paid off, and which is CONTINUOUSLY rising. If you are a typical owner, and buy property in your 30s-40s, live there the rest of your life (although that part is no longer even close to "typical", in most cases by the time you're in your golden years, you'll find yourself in a situation where your rent aka property tax payments due EXCEEDS what your original payments were back in the day, and this will result in many elderly people literally losing their house because they can't afford the rent on a property they thought they owned. They absolutely should be abolished and banned, via Constitutional Amendment if possible.

    But they have nothing to do with the feds and our massive spending and debt problems. They are purely a State and Local matter.
     
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    They are counting the people who died from covid, who also indeed got other problems. You can say that they had covid, but died from something else all you want. There are also other stats showing how many people died in general. Guess what. A heck of a lot more people are dying now compared to other years. And all them spikes in them graphs correspond to the amount of deaths recorded by covid. We can even see that the amount of people dying from covid is totally underreported when eyeballing the "excess mortality" with "deaths by corona". Those people didn't die from more cancer, more gunfire, more car accidents... it's underreported deaths by corona! And at this stage, this shouldn't be news to you.

    And of the people who we do know who end up dead, the most striking things that pops up is that their are a lot of unvaxxed among them.


    It is like "smoking kills". People can deny it all they want, and that such and so didn't die of it. But in general, the more you smoke the shorter you end up living.
    The unvaxxed got the same problem. Their livespan is shortened drastically with covid in general, and when they have other problems... it's just a killer.
     
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    Your posts get more and more absurd. You write off the deaths as if they are inconsequential because the victims may have had another condition. Do you know what percentage of US adults have hypertension? 50%. Do you know what percentage of US adults are prediabetic? 35%.

    Unvaccinated should definitely be counted as a comorbidity
     
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    What is "absurd" - is you accusing me of writing off deaths - when I did no such thing.

    That 95% of deaths have 1 or more pre-existing condition is a fact. of which "pre-diabetic" is not on lthe list -

    The fact if the matter is that the unvaxed showing up dead - are unvaxed from Group B - comorb - pneumonia succeptible - Obese - (which we find most of your diabetes and pre-diabetes patients)

    and I get that you want to demonize and labelfolks ... "Those Bad Fatties showing up at the Hospital" in some kind of totalitarian lust for control on the basis of spoon fed propaganda - .. in your rage against immune compromized folks showing up at the hospital. (and like diabetes .. lots of folks pneumonia succeptible and/or Asthma) .... but , don't blame Group A individuals because it is not those folks showing up in Hospital - ICU - Dead - as this is a demonic violation of the Rule of Law and founding principle.
     
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    lol. You keep saying "blame". The only one blaming anyone is you. You keep running away from the fact that the unvaccinated are the ones who are significantly being hospitalised or dying at a greater rate than the vaccinated.
     
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    I am not the one demonizing the unvaxed - trying to force medical treatment on a group of people on the basis of falsehood - You are the one demonizing a group of people .. not me .. lets get that straight right off the hop. Serious projecting of your actions onto others going on.

    It turns out that the people you want to demonize - "Those showing up at Hospital - ICU - Dead" have pre-existing conditions. .. you are the one demonizing these people .. along with people that don't fit into that category ... did nothing wrong ... yet you want to force medical treatment on these people .. demonize them along with the "Fatties .. and The Weak" ... should we fashion yellow stars for these folks ?

    Ironic Nick you have .. as you are all about the reverse .. injustice on the basis of falsehood ... then trying to project your actions onto others as you have done here.

    Twisted and demonic
     
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    You don't seem to understand the difference between cause of death .. in some cases its "Covid" - 9 out of 10 of which will die of pneumonia .. in other cases .. you have someone die from something unrelated to covid .. but happpened to be Covid Positive.

    This is irrelevant to my point in any case.

    No - its not like "Smoking" .. as your "risk of harm" claim is false.

    The risk of harm from the vaccine to "Healthy" individuals - is greater than the risk of harm from Omicron. So you have things reversed .. taking the vax is "Like Smoking" in your analogy for people in Group A "Healthy individuals"
     

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