Half of Nashville COVID hospitalizations ‘incidental’; admitted for other conditions

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  1. notme

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    ah 9 out of 10 which will die of pneumonia,... that is pneumonia, a disease where people who got that can not breathe easy.
    Add covid.... and the chances of the person dying sky rockets up, since that too effects how well you can breathe.
    I see no problem to relate such a death to covid at all.

    The hell it is. We know when covid infections spiked. It correlates directly to how many more people died compared to other years. If anything the amount of deaths because of covid is underreported when we eyeball how many people died in that period.

    That opinion is just utter fruitcake nonsense from fakebook.
     
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    LOL Where have I said that anyone should be forced to have the vaccine. Any other strawman arguments you want to make?

    Meanwhile the unvaccinated significantly out number the vaccinated in hospitals and deaths
     
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    For the vast majority of people, It’s the same as dying from a cold or a flu currently, but good luck getting Democrats to admit SCIENCE!!! It stopped being about science for a while now. It’s all about control and Democrats LOVE control.

    All one needs to do is use CNN as a barometer after they removed their daily Covid death count. No one freaks out over a flu unless you’re already in bad health. Otherwise, you stay home, drink liquids and wait it out like we’ve done forever. But paranoia and fear sells and going after the children is a prime target for for the most unscrupulous scumbags in politics.
     
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    So much disinformation and out right lies out there how do any layman know the truth?

    CDC Announces 79% of All US Omicron Cases Have Occurred in Vaccinated Individuals (westernjournal.com)
     
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    Showed you the calculation - that you reject the science doesn't make me the fruitcake puddy pie :)

    Pneumonia is death from covid .. as the virus weakenes the immune system - which weakens the good bacteria who are in a symbiotic relationship with your immune system - allowing the bad bacteria to get a foothold - but pneumonia is a separate war.. and needs to be treated as such ..and "treated" in conjunction with vax ... or without vax.

    The Biden Fauci anti science clown show not only did not suggest treatment - they in fact demonized it - which resulted in many deaths that could have prevented by simply giving the public information on treatment ... help the good bugs win the war against the bad bacteria ..

    Primary cause of death from Covid is Pneumonia .. same with Flue .. difference being the earlier versions of covid went after deep respiratory .. particularly problematic and lethal .. Omicron only hits the upper .. like a normal flue. . and not to bad thus far .. not too many dying.

    Think we better be talking "Poundcake" rather than "Fruitcake" don't you think ?
     
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    Its very disturbing mate .. how long these propaganda tropes persisted - and continue to persist - still driving policy.

    1) Transmission - forget it .. no significant diffrence -- all of the real world data .. right from the beginning .. the Israeli Studies .. first nation to be vaxed . .. and what ever "effectiveness - or lack thereof" the vax had initially .. completely gone with Omicron . CDC has admitted this - changing policy after the Massachussets outbreak 74% who got it vaxed .. in a overall population 60% vaxed - not including kids - and just downhill in data from every nation since then. completely useless in terms of transmission from a practical reality standpoint .

    2) Risk of harm from Vax - far lower - "insignificant" relative to the risk of harm from Covid

    This is pants on fire false. for a segment of the population "Group B" (Comorb- immune compromized - Obese) the risk of harm from covid is greater than the vax. .. But for "Group A" the risk of harm from vax is far higher than risk of harm from Delta .. never mind Omnicron .. where the risk of harm is off the charts higher for Group A individuals .. and more so for males in certain age demographic .. and an order of magnitude added on for those who have had covid... have natural immunity.

    This is a demonic trope ... fallacious Utilitarianism ..

    3) "Unvaxed" - "Unclean" - showing up at hospital - ICU - Dead.

    Another demonic trope - fallacious Utilitarianism -- It is those in Group B showing up at the hospital .. those in Group A - are not "Unclean" posing no risk to others .. no difference in risk to hospital system .. and in fact could be argued pose less risk on the basis of not taking the vax .. no risk of showing up in the hospital because you took the vax.
     
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    You did not show me any fruitcake nonsense about the vaccine doing more harm to healthy people vs risk of harm by omicron.

    I see absolutely no need to find a need to label pneumonia caused by covid as a death by pneumonia and not by covid.
    You're running clownshow if you go like that. Death from covid is death from covid. It's that simple.

    As mentioned before.
    We know when the covid infections spiked.
    We know how many people got labelled to have died by covid.
    We know how many people died during that period.
    And it ends up: far more people died in that spike compared to other years.

    We're underreporting as it is.
     
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    Same thing where I live. Something like a couple hundred thousand positive tests/cases, the hospitals should be overflowing with death and despair..... Oh wait, they aren't. That's just the democrats trying to scare folks.
     
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    Conspiracy theories from you? Who would have ever guessed that.
     
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    In reference to your “Local news/Covid positive Children in ICUs”, I’m still waiting for the source/link.

    Reason I asked you for a source/link; I just want to know if you are/aren’t a disinformer.
     
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    So your beef now is with the Western Journal LMAO! Damn Bro is there anyone you align with other than MSNBCNN :)
     
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    Clearly there is no link that would satisfy your thirst for things that match your personal ideology and personal taste in biased information :)
     
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    So, you feel insulting me corrects your mistake? Anymore insults are all the left have any more..
     
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    Sure I did .. and will do so again -- likely followed by you going into Science Denial mode -- again.

    20,000 deaths from the Vax - US population 330,000,000 - risk of harm from vax 1 in 16,500.

    Now you tell me what the risk of death from Omicron - to a healthy unvaxed person that has had covid and survived. I already calculated risk of harm on the basis of Delta and previous - a risk of harm already far lower than above.

    come on mate -- time to up your game -- you are the one wanting forced medical treatment - prove the Biden Fauci claim that the risk of harm is higher for all unvaxed -

    Calculate the risk of harm fro Delta -- for Group A individual who has had Covid - has natural immunity - and also for Omicron.

    Prove that this Biden-Fauci trope you have been parrotting is not "Fruitcake Nonsense"
     
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    If you don’t understand what you’re posting, then you are disinforming.

    Do you remember our first dispute; “Obama doubled the debt”

    Judging from your posts, you’re no different than the media
     
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    If you are going to discredit any and all information that is presented then why bother offering anything other than opinion? Clearly you can't be satisfied from what I see. Hell, you even discredit the CDC if they don't align with your OPINION lmfao..
     
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    20,000 people did not die from the vax in the US. That's just utter nuts.
    At best you can put it just over 11,000 people out of 520 million doses.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

    But that is counting just anybody who died when the person just happened to get a vaccine.
    It doesn't mean one bit that the vaccine killed the person.

    While covid killed 800,000 people out of a population of 330 million.... while not all have been infected by a long shot.



    The difference is totally obvious that the virus is FAR more dangerous.
     
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    Why people are making a big fuss about “Up to 40%” of hospitalized patients who tested positive were admitted for other reasons than Covid?

    Do they have the mental capacity to search for the DUE TO COVID Numbers, instead of getting hysterical about what others have said/are saying?
     
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    Was from the local NBC affiliate in Louisville, KY.
     
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    That number is estimated to be low.. but even using that number .. oh . and we forgot only 60% have been vaxed..

    So .. revised calculation using your number - assume 70% vaxed .= 1 in 21,000

    The Covid killed 800,000 is also way high .. but using that number (all based on Delta and previous) what is the risk of harm to a healthy individual who has had covid ? or even one that hasn't ? ..

    Prove you claim .. get calculating. What was the risk of harm from Delta and previous to unvaxed Group A individuals.
     
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    What would the IQ of someone thinking knowledge of whether or not there's a nurse shortage is correlated to IQ be?
    My guess is lower than average.
     
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    Establishment / Democrats: BE SCARED!
    Democrat Voters: How scared? Really scared? OK... whatever you say!!!! We are SCARED!!!!
    Everyone Else: Scared of what? What a bunch of cowards.
     
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    All of you on the left talking about Medical Worker shortages... quit forcing them to quit when they have Natural Immunity. You guys are creating the problem and making it worse.
     

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