Teacher Fired for not acknowledging her cat 'Meowing' Student

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  1. modernpaladin

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    Our right to screw ourselves up with emotional instability is the only right the establishment wants to protect. Emotionally unstable people are, after all, more likely to be dependent on the state for their prosperity, and dependency makes people easier to control.
     
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    Kind of a non sequitur, but since this thread is being seen for the silly nonsense that it is anyway your post made me think of something I’d been meaning to discuss. Do you think that US prisons treat people in ways that respects their humanity?
     
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    Do you think this applies to a small child pretending to be a cat?
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

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    He felt this way ever since he was a kitten!
     
  5. modernpaladin

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    I think a small child needs to learn there are proper times for make-believe and there are improper times for make-believe. I also think people are more easily taught concepts like 'you cant expect other people to participate in your fantasy world' at a young age.
     
  6. DaveBN

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    Sure, I can agreed with that to a degree. Students shouldn’t be disrupting class with shenanigans. But hey, they’re kids. They’re going to act like kids. I think people can be a little more tolerant of that considering, for many, life doesn’t get much happier than childhood.
     
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    agreed. Firing a woman for not making animal sounds is definitely “silly nonsense”
    For the prisons I guess it depends on the prison.
     
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    We’ve yet to establish that there is any truth to her story. Given that was the main objection leveled here you’d think someone would have dug up a story in this. And yet…

    Do you think US prisons on the whole need to greatly improve prisoner conditions? Maybe provide job training to reduce recidivism?

    Edit: I’ve done a couple searches and all I can seem to find is blogs, tweets, and assorted forums talking about the video. Nothing that offers evidence that the claims are true.
     
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  9. Reality

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    Why do you insist on this partisan nonsense? Why do you not read all the posts in an exchange before bloviating?
    What precisely, and be specific so I can diagnose the disconnect in your cognition such that you have grown confused here, is unclear about the section I have emphasized?

    If a teacher mocks a student for a belief they hold, even if that belief is worthy of mockery between private citizens (as thinking you are a cat is), that teacher has violated their professional ethics and should be fired immediately.

    If a student wishes to advance matters of demonstrable fact that are not so and have nothing to do with a person's "gender" (which is apparently a nebulous term encompassing species now) the teacher can and of course should correct them. The earth is not flat timmy, here is a picture of the earth from space, and here are math formulas used since the BC era which require the taking into account of the curvature of the earth, and here are several ballistics tables that require likewise. IF the earth wasn't curved, our artillery would not be as near pin point accurate as it is. Now stop being disruptive dear.

    He thinks the Nazi's are great: No timmy they were evil people who committed mass genocide and open warfare against their neighbors without cause even going so far as to turn on their allies, see evidence here. They are to be reviled, and no one cares that you want to be edgy. Now stop being disruptive dear, or I'll send you to the office.

    He's a trump supporter: That's nice dear, but you can't vote so no one really cares which politician you support just yet. Its nice that you're keeping up with it though, that will be good practice for when you're an adult. However, no one asked you about your political affiliations, this is math class and later reading and after that science etc. You're 8 yrs old, we don't teach you civics yet because you need to learn all this other basic stuff first. You can look forward to discussing this 9 years from now in Civics class in High School. But that's got nothing to do with the lesson in class today, so please stay on topic, you're being disruptive.


    ^ There, simple. No need to say "DERRRRRRRRRRRRR tEh eArT iZ fLaT", or the like, which is the equivalent of what the teacher did by barking at him.
     
  10. ShadowX

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    That’s fair.

    What does the teacher do when the administration tells them they’re no longer allowed to correct Timmy? Such as the gender identity issue? Not saying she should mock them but I’m sure it gets frustrating for a teacher when they’re not allowed to correct the obviously insane behavior.
     
  11. Reality

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    If she wants to keep her job after her employer gave her very specific instructions? She would withhold her comments and simply check Mittens as present and accounted for.
     
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    And when Mittens demands she meow at him like this insane moron did?
     
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    Was she informed by school administrators that she need to meow back?
     
  14. Kal'Stang

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    Awww...was there a chance that the childs wittle feelings might've gotten hurt?

    Wah. Sometimes a good mocking is far more effective at teaching than any amount of time explaining how idiotic it is to identify as a cat. Tell me, what would you have done? How much time (time better spent teaching real things) would you have spent on correcting this child? If you even would have....
     
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    Maybe the Sub could have just accepted a meow as “Here” and moved on?
    The kid probably gets bullied enough without a teacher joining in.
     
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    And let the kid continue to be an idiot? Not a teachers job last I looked.
     
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    And that’s the issue
    Kids need thicker skins. The real world doesn’t filter everything
    Why do you think this generation is such Whiney little punks
     
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    She can simply decline to, and if he persists in disrupting the class and being disrespectful by making demands that the teacher only greet him in a specific fashion using an animal noise then she can send him to the office for being disruptive.
    The insane moron didn't demand she meow at him. A little girl in the class offered that the teacher should meow at him, which seems like she was new fishing the sub.
    She then asked if there was a litter box, when the kid got offended and stormed off she barked at him.
    Please try to keep the facts straight, they are not complicated.
     
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  19. Darthcervantes

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    Awww. Maybe you can buy him some cat nip
    Your concern is so precious
     
  20. DaveBN

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    Sometimes kids pretend. Doesn’t make them an idiot. If it becomes a serious disruption to the classroom then the teacher should refer the student to school administrators. Schools have guidance counselors.
    The last thing a young child needs is for their teacher to act like a bully.
     
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    Your lack of anything relevant to say is apparent. Still haven’t proven this sub’s claims are anything more than a right wing fever dream.
     
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    I believe I've already answered this in previous posts in this thread. Please read, then ask.

    A public school teacher is not authorized to mock their charges. That's a violation of their professional ethical standards. You may argue the merits of changing that in the future, but as it stands her responsibilities were clear and she willfully violated them to mock an 8yr old.

    What would I have done? Marked little Mittens present and accounted for and moved on with my day as a substitute teacher having discharged my main duties: 1) take ****ing roll; 2) don't violate your ethical responsibilities. If Mittens had become disruptive because I wouldn't meow at him (not that that is what occurred in this case as a plain reading of this woman's transcribed words would tell you), I would've sent him to the office for being disruptive, for being disrespectful by interrupting me in the course of my duties to the rest of the class and demanding I greet him with a specific animal noise when I don't greet any of the other students with any noise but their name and move right on after they announce present, and holding up the class wasting all of our time.
    That exchange might take a full 25 seconds O THE HUGEMANATEE!!!!!!
     
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    Meow!
     
  24. Reality

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    The real world doesn't filter everything, but school isn't the 'real world' by any stretch of the imagination and teachers are not authorized to mock and belittle their charges, whether or not those charges deserve it and whether or not those charges need thicker skin.
     
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    Belittling and mocking an 8 yr old isn't her job either.
     
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