Senate Democrats should accomplish what they can!!!

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Due to Sinema and Manchin, the BBB bill is dead. The voting rights bill is dead.

    BUT...they can still pass lots of the BBB through reconciliation. Not all of it, maybe just 50% of it, but its still worth doing!!!

    They should stop shooting for the moon, get done what they CAN get done, and shoot for Hawaii instead of the moon. Progress is progress, even if its less than you hoped for.

    Or...the Dems can whine and bitch and moan, and look like a bunch of pathetic children, and waste this valuable power they have.

    They can get some climate change stuff done.

    They can do a millionaire's or billionaire's tax.

    They can do paid family leave.

    There are a bunch of things Sinema and Manchin are willing to support, so use that support!!!!
     
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    Sorry but the bills are attached to quid pro quo. Nothing passes unless certain democrats get paid under the table.
     
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    Let's see, climate change, that's where the US government puts onerous costly programs on U.S. citizens to comply with certain environmental standards that the rest of the industrial world doesn't follow.

    The bottom 50 % of Americans pay no tax or very little tax but they are never satisfied. Tax the working people more and pass on those dollars so others can receive paid family leave. Since when should we all be responsible for everybody's children?
     
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    It appears that they have already accomplished too much. Runaway inflation, crime rates going through the roof in many cities, many people so pissed at them that they are going to vote them out of office in droves come November. They would likely be smart to quit while they are already so far behind.
     
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    Kind of hard to get anything done when your president and VP are trying to survive a 33% approval rate after being slapped in the face with a SCOTUS ruling on their unconstitutional mandates.
    Its been a sinking ship every since the Afghanistan disaster.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Inflation is the Democrats' fault??????????????

    LOLOL!!!

    too funny.

    I bet you also blame the supply chain issues in China, on the Democrats.

    :p
     
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    @Ronstar
    No need to worry, the democrats plans are working. Crime out of control, race relations at all time low, inflation blowing up and little children identifying as cats. All is going according to plan. NO WORRIES...your democrapocalypse will come sooner than you think.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    another genius who has no idea about inflation.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Damn Straight!
    Don't forget it!
    oh, and btw, LETS GO BRANDON
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    um......who is Brandon?

    Punky Brewster's dog?

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    It’s like Democrats are going out of their way to fluck things up. The climate change stuff, and war on fossil fuel’s might have sounded good to some, but the reality of gas prices going up 50% is a major reason why prices of everything is going through the roof.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and the global supply-chain issues.

    factories are closed or half-staffed due to covid.

    we dont have enough truck drivers to deliver stuff
     
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    So you want to make inflation even worse than it is already. I'll pass on every dollar.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    inflation will go away once covid is gone or severely reduced.
     
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    No one is saying it’s just one thing. But Biden and his defund the police democrats……shut down the fossil fuel industry…..,side with the BS teachers union keeping our kids out of school, etc. etc. are on the wrong side with how most Americans are feeling. Those feelings are going to cause a lot of Democrats to be unemployed come November.
     
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    fossil fuels are killing this planet.

    we need to go all solar/nuclear/hydro/geothermal/fusion, and soon.
     
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    No, inflation is permanent. When you reduce the value of the dollar, the only way to restore it is to implement deflation and government will never do that. You are confusing inflation with price increases. Price increases have nothing to do with inflation or covid. They are caused by the ratio of supply and demand and I agree they will correct themselves over time. But inflation will not.
     
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    there is much more demand than supply, due to covid.

    once this balances out, prices will stabilize.

    FACT
     
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    Demand is very strong. There is a lot of pent up purchasing power, some of which occurred because of covid. Supply is poor. Hence high prices. Yes, as I said, prices will stabilize over time. We agee. But you said inflation will stabilize over time and that is what I corrected.
     
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    They aren't even useful when it comes to climate change related things. 9 out of 10 of them don't even know that fossil fuels are needed for the production of solar panels
    they only know what CNN tells them "PETROLEUM BAD"
     
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    Biden said he was going to shut down COVID, not the country.
    You seem to be saying that COVID is raging and that too much of the country is shutdown. Let's Go Brandon!

    BECAUSE THE “EXPERTS” ARE DRIVEN MORE BY AGENDAS THAN INTELLECT? Why Did Almost Nobody See Inflation Coming?

    “Forecasting inflation is a staple of macroeconomic modeling, yet virtually all economists’ predictions for the United States in 2021 were way off the mark. This dismal performance reflected a collective failure to take economic models seriously enough, as well as other analytical shortcomings.”

    "Talking about inflation was bad for the Democrats’ big-spending plan, so there was no talk about inflation. Except from Republicans, whose views were dismissed as “far right conspiracy theory,” a phrase that we’ve learned translates pretty well as “things everyone will know in six months.”"

    Your Vote Counts!
     
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    solar panels require around 3 years of operation to pay off their carbon debt.

    after 3 years, they are 100% carbon neutral.

    can you say that about coal? natural gas? oil?

    nope.
     
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    Since, you live in a society with other people's children.
     
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    If you have a national emergency, like a supply chain boondoggle, you can declare it a national emergency and bring in the National Gaurd. Will they do that? No. Why not? Union Labor.
     
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    We use to have a pretty civilized society until we were forced to have other uncivilized groups forced upon us. The standards were not raised but lowered to accommodate. It was to make everyone feel fuzzy and warm inside but only made us a resentful society towards each other.
     

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