Why does the GOP want to suppress voter turnout?

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Haven't seen anything that supports that position... plenty that rejects it. Just supposed to take it for granted and ignore the nature of the actual conduct? Of course.
     
  2. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "suppression" you speak of never existed. The claim that Democrats have an interest in making it easier for people to exercise their rights is complete BS.

    I propose voters provide 3 forms of ID and a thumb print, take an exam to prove they know what they are doing, undergo a background check, and have to make 2 trips to the polls 10 days apart. Would you support that?
     
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    Ah, nope.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    u really want less people to vote, huh?
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I forgot to add a voting tax to my list. Would you support what I propose?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    I checked TX. No charge for a voting ID. Can't get one if you have another valid ID. Try again.
     
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    For some poor, elderly and medically challenged it AbsaByGodLutely can be.
     
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    And even less than that vote. 30% of the people vote. I bet over 90% of all adults in the US have drivers licenses.
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    supreme court said such BS would be very unConstitutional.
     
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    Agreed

    Wrong. We should strive to verify every vote is legal. Quality is more important than Quantity.

    Wrong. Limit the numbers to illegal votes. You can't fix the problem by making it worse.
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is no evidence that illegal voting is a big problem, other than in Trump's tiny weeny imagination.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well this is what your party created for those exercising their second amendment rights. That means that your position is not one of making it easier for people to exercise their rights. Its about getting dem votes.
     
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    expanding voting rights would likely lead to more Republican votes
     
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    You are expressing opinions not facts so there is no proof in either direction. I don't think the GOP is trying to restrict voting. That is a democrat talking point and is contrary to the facts. What the GOP opposes is the effort to nationalize elections which, as you may know, is unconstitutional. It also opposes activities supported by democrats that hurt election security. These things would include mass mailings of ballots and ballot harvesting. There is no evidence of people not being able vote anywhere to my knowledge.
     
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    That is not just incorrect; it is far from reasonable. Dems don't work for Reps. They do what favors their side. No different than the reps.
     
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    Not true. Our state requires ID's and will provide one to any voter who needs one at no cost. This is true of most states that require voter ID's
     
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    Except every time there is a problem, the party it works for claims there isn't any problem. Year after year after year.
    And there is plenty of evidence. There is even a website for convictions.
    So why pretend?
    If you didn't think any problem exist, why are you for voter IDs?

    Why is it that every time a state passes a voter law, it only somehow effects Democrats?
    Are Democrats mentally inferior to Republicans?

    I say we promote voter ID, nobody votes without it, and the problem is solved. Is it not?
    Open the polls for voting 30 days prior to the general election.
    Report those votes every day at close of the poll.
    No poll can stay open on election day past their normal voting hours.
    Whats so difficult to about that?
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans oppose ANY Federal mandate of voting rules upon the states.

    early voting, mail voting by request, anything
     
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    Anyone who supports the constitution opposes ANY federal mandates.
    The US Government has no right to interfere with state voting laws. In fact, its unconstitutional.

    Think about this for one second.

    Democrats have become short sighted just to get something they want right now.
    Do you think for a second, if Democrats pass their voting bill, Republicans won't take advantage of it?
    Do you think there will never be another Republican president?
    Would you be happy with a Republican president telling states what laws they can and can not institute?

    We already saw this with the SCOTUS. Democrats changed the Senate voting to confirm from 60 to 50 during Obamas term to get federal judges passed through that Republicans wouldn't vote for.
    What happened?
    Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Bennett were confirmed with 51 votes. Are you happy about that?
    Are you prepared for the very same thing to happen with state voting rights when a Republican is elected.
    I"m not. I don't want this government to have that much power. Do you?
     
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    I'll give my OPINION, in response to your OPINION.

    I have never liked early voting. I was glad my state didn't have it, until the pandemic when they instituted it in a MINOR way. I don't like it because people should be informed about the candidates and issues, and news about such continues up to Election Day. However, I don't oppose Election Day being a Federal Holiday, IF most early voting is eliminated. In fact, have a 3 day holiday or something like that. If you can't get yourself to the polls in those circumstances, you don't care enough to vote, barring physical disability.

    I thoroughly disagree with "vote by mail", too much opportunity for fraud and ballot harvesting, tampering, etc. That is quite different from absentee balloting, where the VOTER has to request the mail-in ballot, and should be limited to those who are physically incapable of getting to a polling place or who will be out of their precinct area on Election Day.

    I am in favor of photo ID to vote, and I think it should be obtainable at no cost.

    I am NOT in favor of basically begging people to vote. It's a right that I believe everyone has a duty and responsibility to exercise, in a serious and informed manner, and if it happens to require a minimal amount of effort, so be it.
     
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    Yes, but we should all be paid for going through the hassle.
     
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    So you're going to ignore the fact that Colorado has had mail in for years with no problem.
     
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    I really don't think they care. This is a dog whistle for "Trump was robbed" which equals "hells yeah! Margie get my checkbook!".
     
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    Pretty much. The fact is, issues could arise at any time. And the less "purple" it becomes, the more likely that will be. However, Colorado is a state that is free to do as its citizens wish, I simply gave my opinion about it. Just because something may work in a particular state, is no proof it will work across the country in all 50, which is pretty much what we're discussing here. For example, would I trust Cook County, Illinois with a vote by mail system like Colorado's? Hell to the no.
     
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