Senate Democrats should accomplish what they can!!!

Except the rhetoric has gone so extreme against Sinema and Manchin, that they now cannot work with them or they blow all credibility.

You don't get MLKs granddaughter to read a prepared statement against them saying if they don't cave to your demands they're bigots, only to cave to THEIR demands.

The progressives argued themselves in to a corner, as per usual.

 

Some of us don't care about carbon neutrality so I think you are beating the wrong horse. I don't know much about solar panels but I can tell you that if they actually saved money there would be many more of them in service. Until they save money, most consumers will ignore the technology.

 

Raising livestock for food is worse for the environment than cars. Are you a Vegan?

 

so u think the National Guard should go to China and help them build their products?

 

farming produces 1/3 as much CO2 as cars, in the USA.

700 million tons per year vs 1.6 billion tons per year.

 

So you're a vegan?

 

so you admit your claim that agriculture produces more carbon than cars, was false?

good man.

 

I found a few sources on cars VS livestock. Some show livestock as worse than cars. Don't forget that raising livestock requires fuel-burning vehicles and equipment as well. What confuses me is all the claims to care about the environment from those taking their single occupancy vehicle through the in-n-out drive thru.

Are you a Vegan?

 

automobiles in the USA contribute MUCH more carbon than farming, especially livestock.

I win.

 

Livestock produces methane while cars produce CO2. Methane traps 100 times more heat than CO2. While some sources like the UN says livestock is worse, I will give you credit for being right and will assume that its less. It is, however, still harmful and those that genuinely care about the environment would not consume animal products.

Are you a Vegan?

 

So what's China have to do with unloading ships and loading trucks and rails in the US and delivering goods in the USA

 

I don't think it makes any difference what Sinema and Manchin support if they don't support getting rid of the filibuster.

Yes... some things can be done through reconciliation. But not many. And Republicans will filibuster anything that would really have long-term effect only because.... they would hate to see a Democrat succeed in anything significant.

Biden will need to find another way. Use (and if necessary abuse) executive orders. He will have to take a page from the Republican playbook and start issuing executive orders which might (or might not) be stricken down by judges and fight them all the way up to the Supreme Court. This is where Biden will need to become bold.

Oh... and also, don't release the pressure on Sinema and Manchin over the filibuster.

 

Biden swore an oath to faithfully execute the laws of the United States. Deliberately issuing illegal and/or unconstitutional orders, knowing that they are an illegitimate exercise of tyranny with the expectation that they will be in force during the court process is a violation of is oath of office.

You post reflects utter disdain for the basic rights of the Free American People and it's not a position immediately decried by Democrats. Americans, well aware of this Disdain for US, is turning from Democrat Party in great numbers.

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The key for a Representative in our Representative Liberal Democracy is to determine the will of those they wish to represent and then pursue their interests. Dems are not showing real interest in the majorities interests, therefore the majority is showing little interest in continuing to employ them as representatives, which is perfectly fitting and proper.

 

Manchin said he would vote for stand-alone Paid Family Leave bill.

get it done Democrats!!!!

 

I’m fairly confident that if they do a singular bill for taxes (your billionaire plan) it has to start in the house. Same with paid family leave.

 

-Billionaire tax, paid family leave, something dealing with reduction in fossil fuels, subsidies for solar panels. This can all be passed through Reconciliation.

get it done Dems!!!

 

I see what you mean. You are probably right they very likely could. That said let’s talk pros and cons of a few of these.

I haven’t read the legislation. But let’s say this legislation forced all business to give family leave, not just big one or not just government positions but all businesses. This is another expense on business and likely will slow wage growth.

then you add on top of that a tax hike on millionaires and up (most every business out there) you add another burden on businesses and likely cost jobs and wage growth

Then you add climate stuff that most definitely will cost money to possibly everyone while going through inflation as well.

hey everyone, enjoy the cost of democrat legislation

 

no company would be forced to provide family leave, the costs would be covered by the Federal govt.

 

Yeah I’m not so sure I believe that. And if so where are they getting the money for this?

 

where does the USA get money?

is that a serious question?

through taxes and debt

 

I just read up on it. Here is what I found

Although past proposals paid for this benefit using a payroll tax, this program would be funded by revenue raisers such as a new corporate minimum tax rate and a new tax on stock buybacks. The program is not scheduled to sunset and could run indefinitely if these measures continue to cover its costs.

So what you’re saying is it still will add a burden on businesses and weigh on wage gain along with jobs and it also will only effect some workers, not all. Additionally the cap for this is only 800 and some odd dollars a week. This won’t effect everyone and really is only a program for poorer folks. It will also decrease productivity in a world where the supply chain is already hurting.

 

@Ronstar Do you seriously think Nancy Pelosi would allow Democrats to introduce a millionaires tax? Seriously?

 

It's very very popular among Democrats.

Would add a new tax rate for income above $1 million

 

Yes, but do you really think Nancy wants it?

You see, I think that’s the sort of idea that political Democrats are favor of UNTIL they have the power to do it. Then the topic just magically disappears from their agenda.

 

Yes I think pelosi and Schumer and all of the other Democrats would gladly support and approve such a new tax

They would also support an increase on capital gains taxes