Abortion Leading Global Cause of Death in 2021 with 43 Million Killed

She shouldn't have the procedure in the first place. If the MOM (and she IS a mother now) finds pregnancy to be inconvenient, then she shouldn't have partaken in the one act that can get her pregnant in the first place. She is now pregnant deliberately and as such has no valid excuse that requires the ending of the life she purposefully created.

 

My sister has been a Quaker for 40 years.

That doesn't sound like here, her Friends community or anyone else related.

 

There are no "pro-abortionists". That's just a thoughtless epithet.

In fact, YOU keep claiming to agree that laws against women's healthcare autonomy is not the proper way forward.

And, NOW you are hurling disgusting accusations toward those who honestly hold the opinion YOU claim to hold!!

What's up with that?

I'm trying to see your opinion as somehow honest and consistent.

 

No, it doesn’t sound like Quakers...at least East Coast Quakers (Friends General Conference.). My wife is a Quaker, born into a Quaker family. My daughter is a Quaker as well. They both are members of FGC. I’m not Quaker, but I’ve attended Quaker meeting with my wife, off and on, since we were married 50 years ago.

There is another major group of Quakers in America, Friends United Meeting, mostly in the West and mid-west. I don’t know their position on abortion, but they’re a more conservative bunch, more Christ oriented.

There is probably as much diversity of opinion among American Friends as there is among other denominations. I don’t know your sister’s Friend’s affiliation.

 

Anybody who supports abortion. You can justify it any way you want and say you're not actually advocating for exactly what your advocating for nobody's fooled but you.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

That makes no sense.


Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.

Uh, since when do you make the rules? What gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do?

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...just like men...

 

Polydectes said: ↑
The people who support this Holocaust think that it's okay to kill someone if you can't see their face. Further than that it's not a person if they can't see it's face.""""



FoxHastings said: ↑
Who said that?
No one.

And, , as usual, you have no proof.....another unsubstantiated bit of horsepuckey

 

Proof that people are advocating what they are advocating?

Did you think before you posted this?

Probably not.

 

Since the results of those actions lead to murder? Ya. Kind of frown upon that whole murder aspect of abortion.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

That makes no sense.


Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.



Uh, since when do you make the rules? What gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do?

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...

LOL, go ahead and you do your ""frowning upon""....I'm sure it won't matter to anyone

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...

 

Oh sure. "it's just a fringe group of people"

Sorry to burst your bubble, but abortion has been a growing hot topic of those for it and against. It's not just "me" doing the frowning. If it were, this would be a non issue. Unfortunately for those who are pro choice, the more science tells us about the development of humans inside the womb, the more complicated abortion is to defend as we can't just shrug it off and go on with our lives.

Men are also culpable in the act of procreating as well. As it takes two genders to get together and be irresponsible. But in the end, it is the woman who can choose with or without the man's opinion as to if she wants to get an abortion. It's her responsibility in the end. And if she elects murder, there should be consequences to that action.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

That makes no sense.


Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.



Uh, since when do you make the rules? What gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do?

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...



LOL, go ahead and you do your ""frowning upon""....I'm sure it won't matter to anyone

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...

WHERE in the post of mine you quoted did I mention ""it's just a fringe group of people"


I didn't.
An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...

I've been debating the abortion issues fo ryears and years and you think you'll burst my bubble by telling me it's a hot topic ?!! LOL

Again, An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...

No, no matter what science tells us about pregnancy it hasn't changed...nor has women's right to their own bodies.....but I agree many "frown on" women having rights to this day!

Irrelevant.

...or anyone else's

When TF are Anti-Choicers going to realize that ???

If anyone elects to murder there should be consequences....why are you singling out women?

If a woman elects a legal medical procedure ( abortion) there shouldn't be consequences

 

It's murder. Is the entire problem.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

That makes no sense.


Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.



Uh, since when do you make the rules? What gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do?

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...



LOL, go ahead and you do your ""frowning upon""....I'm sure it won't matter to anyone

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...






WHERE in the post of mine you quoted did I mention ""it's just a fringe group of people"


I didn't.
An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...





I've been debating the abortion issues fo ryears and years and you think you'll burst my bubble by telling me it's a hot topic ?!! LOL

Again, An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...



No, no matter what science tells us about pregnancy it hasn't changed...nor has women's right to their own bodies.....but I agree many "frown on" women having rights to this day!






...or anyone else's




When TF are Anti-Choicers going to realize that ???




If anyone elects to murder there should be consequences....why are you singling out women?

If a woman elects a legal medical procedure ( abortion) there shouldn't be consequences

So you can't address any issues in the post of mine you quoted , present any facts, back up any claims you made about what I posted...have nothing but , "It's MURRRRRDER! I tell YE! I Tis MURRRDER!"


That's why abortion is still legal

 

We've been over this.

The facts are you are willfully creating a human life by electing to partake in the one act that can create life, and choosing to kill it because you do not want to face the responsibility for your actions. It's murder.

Those are the facts. That's what science tells us. That at conception, you have created a completely unique human life form that has all the information it needs to grow into a complete human adult so long as it is given nutrition. That's what it is.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
"""""They are happening at a much later term and because the mom finds it an inconvenience"""

If a woman ( NO one is a "mom" if they haven't had a kid) finds having a pregnancy and a kid to be inconvenient why would she wait?

That makes no sense.


Oh, and here's some of those scary FACTS thingys:

Most abortions are performed between 12 and 18 weeks.



Uh, since when do you make the rules? What gives you the right to decide what people should or shouldn't do?

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...



LOL, go ahead and you do your ""frowning upon""....I'm sure it won't matter to anyone

Women are free to have sex whenever/however they want...and they do ..just like men...






WHERE in the post of mine you quoted did I mention ""it's just a fringe group of people"


I didn't.
An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...





I've been debating the abortion issues fo ryears and years and you think you'll burst my bubble by telling me it's a hot topic ?!! LOL

Again, An imagination isn't a good thing to debate with...



No, no matter what science tells us about pregnancy it hasn't changed...nor has women's right to their own bodies.....but I agree many "frown on" women having rights to this day!


Irrelevant.



...or anyone else's




When TF are Anti-Choicers going to realize that ???




If anyone elects to murder there should be consequences....why are you singling out women?

If a woman elects a legal medical procedure ( abortion) there shouldn't be consequences





So you can't address any issues in the post of mine you quoted , present any facts, back up any claims you made about what I posted...have nothing but , "It's MURRRRRDER! I tell YE! I Tis MURRRDER!"


That's why abortion is still legal

That doesn't make you right.

NO, science does not make nor determine laws.

SO WHAT ? That doesn't give a fetus more rights than BORN humans ....THAT doesn't determine laws or rights....


LOL, so we should throw up our arms, declare women have NO rights that everyone else including fetuses have and we go merrily on our way?

NO.

 

Yes...it absolutely should because it is what it is.

A new human being deliberately created of which there is now demanded responsibility beyond simply killing the individual

 

SO WHAT ? That doesn't give a fetus more rights than BORN humans ....THAT doesn't determine laws or rights....


LOL, so we should throw up our arms, declare women have NO rights that everyone else including fetuses have and we go merrily on our way?

NO.

Now, CAN you address my post, answer my question or give a REASON your orders should be followed???

 

Seems like the last round of Anti-Choicers have seen the light .....all done..

 

What individual?

 

The one inside the mom.

 

If it is inside her it is by definition not an individual.

 

If it has it's own DNA, it's own blood type and a sex that doesn't necessarily match it's mother...then yes...it is an individual as separate from the mom. It is merely using the mother for nourishment and protection. Everything about who that individual is has already been mapped out.

failed attempt at a gotcha. learn biology as to what happens at conception maybe?

 

AGAIN : SO WHAT ? That doesn't give a fetus more rights than BORN humans ....THAT doesn't determine laws or rights....


LOL, so we should throw up our arms, declare women have NO rights that everyone else including fetuses have and we go merrily on our way?

NO.

 

Your argument is so what. (and large font...lol)

You understand that right?

It's a weak argument. (maybe if they had larger font?)

You purposefully created a unique life. A human life. Of which you are murdering at it's earliest most vulnerable stages of development.

Don't do that. It's immoral. Accept the responsibility of your actions and if you can't do that, then don't do the action.