Abortion & Minimum Wage: How Abortion Oppresses Women

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    All you are doing now is attacking me personally that's it that's all you have because your argument is broken and I broke it.

    I will take any further posts from you on the subject in perpetuity as crying and fit throwing because I broke your argument.

    You have nothing you never had anything it's over.
     
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  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    LOL, I accept your defeat....and MAY ignore "altering a post" ....;)
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I never really cared about this subject when I first started posting on political forums I'm a gay guy I won't get pregnant I want to forget anyone pregnant so it's not my problem. That was my thought until pro-abortion types started talking to me they made me pro-life essentially.

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    This meme isn't a meme it's just a fact.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said that, you might need to get your eyes checked

    as this is what I said "some on the right want the government to force rape victims to have their rapists babies"

    you could have proved my wrong by answering this question, but you could not

    "do you support rape victims getting abortions (yes or no)?"
     
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    Uh, even straight guys don't get pregnant.....""This meme isn't a meme it's just a fact."":roflol:
     
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  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You implied it by bringing up rape to emotionally manipulated the repose you want.

    There is a reason I said that is a dishonest argument have you had your eyes checked?
    that implies abortion is strictly about rape victims and it isn't and you know it isn't that's why you are bringing up a dishonest argument to emotionally manipulate people.
    no I couldn't it's a loaded question. Answering it in any way would force me to accept your paradigm and that's why you designed it that way. It is also a dishonestactic not surprising coming from you.
    Again direct answer to this question for the second time.

    I never support murder.
     
  7. FreshAir

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    Again you confirm what I said "some on the right want the government to force rape victims to have their rapists babies"

    I support the woman (or in some instances the little girl) making the choice for themselves, I do not think I, you, or the government should choose for them
     
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    You can say that about any murder.

    You won the government to force right victims to raise their rapists baby because you want it to be illegal for them to kill it after it's born.

    Your argument is stupid and broken that's why you have to resort to dishonest tactics.
    No you use them as a tool to manipulate. Abortion was never about women it was about genocide. That's all it is today just genocide.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    Poster NEVER said that...and YOU talk about dishonesty???


    DUH, BTW, it IS illegal to kill someone after they're born...
     
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    So with your erroneous "murder" meme you say you want impregnated rape victims to suffer more, be punished more, that rapists....
     
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    after it's born it's a baby, then it would be murder, something the right supports if mommy is poor it seems

    "Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

    "But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."
     
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    I disagree with this ideological viewpoint and if you can't make a point without having to belligerently insist on this then you don't have any points to make.
     
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    what you or I believe doesn't matter unless we are making the choice

    do you support universal healthcare for all children that are born?
     
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    so if somebody aborts their 5-year-old what I believe doesn't matter because I'm not the one making the choice.

    I tell you I love when you make statements like this cuz I always get to pull that 5-year-old out and every single time.
    Healthcare what's that? Diet nutrition don't smoke care about your health basically?

    There's no universal for that. Your question doesn't make sense.
     
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    So with your erroneous "murder" meme you say you want impregnated rape victims to suffer more, be punished more, that rapists....
     
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    Why do you belligerently insist that a human is a "baby" from conception to old age and death...
     
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    you can't abort someone that is already born... though some republicans do want to do that to poor people as the link I posted shows, maybe you missed it as you snipped it

    do you support universal healthcare for the poor?

    "Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

    https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

    "But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."
     
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    I'm not the one who invented fancy words for murder.
    I understand abortion was designed to exterminate poor people.
    That doesn't make sense.

    What does this have to do with anything?
     
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    too funny, so the right wants to force women to give birth, but not give children free healthcare

    what do you mean what does that have to do with anything, that child died from being denied healthcare, AGAINST the mother's wishes
     
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    :roflol::roflol: ...lol, gasp, and WHO "designed " it? :roflol::roflol::roll:


    And, oopsie! Ya "forgot" one:


    Why do you belligerently insist that a human is a "baby" from conception to old age and death...???
     
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    Credit where due, he is very, very consistent on the desirable position of men & women in society. The idea that banning abortion is somehow for the good of women is just the latest piece of sophistry in support of this.
     
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    LOL, I guess when the stupid and disingenuous "What?" is no longer an option is IS best to quit :)
     
  23. kazenatsu

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    I'm going to quote you from another thread, FoxHastings.
    Do you believe a poor woman should have the right to take a job that pays less than men in that same job?
    Let's presuppose she is a victim who is being discriminated against. And she may likely suffer either way, either taking a job that pays less than her male colleagues, or just simply not getting the job. Doesn't she have the right to choose how she will suffer?

    Why are you against laws that tell women what they have they have to do in an abortion, but in favor of laws that tell a woman how much money she would have to be paid if she were to get a job?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, either way she is still a victim, victim's suffer......but choosing how to make her life better is HER decision and NO one else's.



    Why are you taking this thread OFF TOPIC ? My post was about abortion.

    You continually accuse others of going off topic...are your rules different for YOU?

    I am in favor of Equal Pay for Equal Work, also known as the LAW.

    Why do you think women should have NO say in whether to gestate or not ?

    Your convoluted "argument" is ridiculous with no legitimate comparison at all...


    Why couldn't you address my post in the thread I put it in? Too much common sense and facts????? :) :) :)
     
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    You make this analogy - which makes some sense - but fail to relate it to how abortion being legal constitutes oppression.

    The oppression you are referring to has nothing to do with abortion .. but with life -- that we have to work to survive . and yes .. many women will chose to abort for financial reasons .the majority I would say. Some teenager has whole life ahead of her .. and if she wants to do well in this life .. all hopes and aspirations - many of which have a financial connection -- and some not - will be foregone if she has a kid... is a big responsibility. Abortion is freedom for this girl .. the oppression comes from elsewhere ..

    Legalized Abortion is not oppression - you have things backwards
     

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