Whoopie & the Holocaust

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    13 million died in the camps only 6 million were Jews. The other 7 were those descriibed above.

    I may be wrong in this but my understanding that the Jews themselves have two designations for what is probably history's greatest mass murder in the shortest time. The Holocaust is the Great Slaughter. The Shoah is the genocide of the Jews alone.

    https://www.memorialdelashoah.org/en/archives-and-documentation/what-is-the-shoah.html
     
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    The story is that an underling Nazi was with Reinhard Heydrich and both were watching Jews being sent to the gas chamber:
    "What will ever happen to us if the world finds out we are doing this" the underling asked plaintively.
    "Not to worry", replied Heydrich, "they'll never believe it."
     
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    I googled "racism" for a dictionary definition. Appalled doesn't begin to describe what I felt when I discovered that renowned scholarly sources such as Oxford have twisted the definition to match the current far-left inspired trend.

    Britannica still has the proper definition of racism:
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Jews died from shooting, exhausting and starvation, outside of the camps.
     
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    I remember reading somewhere about a group of Nazis leaders visiting a death camp. Those who were the strongest advocates of the final solution couldn’t watch how this solution was actually carried out - it made them sick. I think it’s possible that many Nazi demagogues of that time had no idea that their extreme rhetoric was actually carried out.
     
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    The Jews are not a race. We have members from ALL races, white, black, Asian, etc.

    But Hitler and the Nazis stupidly believed that ALL Jews were one single unique race, and were inferior and a burden upon the planet Earth and its finite resources. Hitler found a Final Solution. It wasn't pleasant.
     
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    The reason why Hitler and his Nazi party ordered genocide on the Jewish population in Germany was that after World War 1, The German people were affected and put in some kind of poverty and the Jewish people were well off more than the other people in Germany. Adolph Hitler did not like this and was an atheist to start off with. He hated the Jews so much, he wanted to kill them because he believed they were an inferior race of people. Hitler also wanted to kill off other races until the only people left were the blonde haired, blue eyed people that were pure. Whoopi Goldberg when she mentioned that it wasn't race related, She was dead wrong and She was in the wrong She when mentioned it. When her two week suspension is up, She had better learn her lesson. I would have suspended her for six weeks.
     
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    There is no evidence that Hitler was an atheist. He publicly condemned atheism. Certainly, most Nazis were theists. It was on their belt buckles, and the Nazis openly persecuted atheists.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The story is that they gassed the Jews because the ones who shot them went a little crazy after a while from nightmares and became "dangerous" as soldiers. It was Adolph Eichmann who came up with the idea of putting them in trucks with the exhaust turned around and this graduated to the gas chambers. The idea that it saved bullets is apparently a myth.

    What you say is possible for regular Germans. Even residents living near to the death camps avoided these places with great care. When the camps were liberated Eisenhower ordered that Germans living close by be conscripted to clean them up. Films taken of the people coerced to do this show individuals appearing genuinely shocked and sickened. The Nazi High Command, however, visited the camps regularly, they knew what was going on.
     
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    Probably helped them psychologically to have other prisoners fetch the bodies from the gas chambers instead of doing it themselves.
     
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    Agree 100%. Any non-Jew can become a Jew. There are Jewish people of all Races.

    But to a great extent, Jews are an ethnicity.
     
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    It's both. There is Judaism as a religion (which includes people of all ethnicities), and there is Jewishness as an ethnicity (which includes people of all religions). Nazis were more concerned with the latter.
     
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    I believe Nazis did force some death camp inmates to move dead bodies out of the gas chambers. I think I read somewhere that they were either promised, or were hoping, that these duties would spare them from the same fate.
     
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    I'm not sure what they were promised or what they expected, but yeah, definitely. They were called Sonderkommandos, and they are some of the key eyewitnesses we have when it comes to the Holocaust.
     
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    What many on the woke right fail to realize is that most ashkenazi jewish ppl are white. Theyre actually more whiter than most woke right which is prolly what angers them. Yet and still they are going to push hitler doctrine in that ashkenazi jewish ppl are NOT white. Lol. Now if we are talking sephardi or israelites then of course theyre not white but the above mentioned were not in the camps, they were scattered throughout west africa during the original holocaust (the inquisition of 1492)
     
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    Not according to science, you're just making that up. There is no jew DNA.
     
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    what some folks call the "Israelite DNA" is aka J1, which is found at a much higher rate in Jordanians, Palestinians, and Yemeni than any Jewish group.

    J1 is basically just a Middle Eastern gene, and MANY Jews do not have it. Including me.
     
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    Nevertheless, no Jew can stop being a Jew.

    A non-Jew can become a Jew.
     
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    These are social constructs, dude.
     
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    thats odd, there’s a ton of Jews who gave up on that. I don’t mean to scare you but sometimes muslims stop being muslims and xtians stop being xtians.
    It happens.
     
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    According to Judaism, they are still Jews -- not Noahites.
     
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    Thank G-d, I never experienced anti-Semitism.
     
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    The hapless 'sonderkommandos' Jews coerced to haul their dead countrymen to the ovens, truly a horrible fate
     
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    Well I don't really know what religion Hitler was.
     
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    Jews are a nation, and yes, there's a Jewish genome.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/
     
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