Hot Take: Nazis were not evil for their time.

Still not answering my question. I asked why they hid it in the first place if, as you claim, it was normal for the time period?

The idiotic "FEMA camp" conspiracy theory predates Trump's presidency. And it's dumber than a sack of hair. Are there people dumb enough to believe it? Sure, just like there are flat earthers. And Trump support isn't a race.

 

I just spit out my tea.

 

Mass genocide was and is never "normal". It is always evil.
There is no relativism of any kind.
It doesn't matter what the "reason/excuse" is or where or why it is practised.

and quite frankly I find the suggestion that what the nazis did was less than pure insane evil, because of some fabricated assumption that others were doing or would be doing something similar, a disgrace. There is NO moral shred of justification for what they did. Whoever casually kills thousands if not millions of human beings over a period of time as a deliberate policy, is the same kind of pure evil .

The OP, from what I can discover, considers himself to be morally superior by dint of his declared faith.
How DARE he even think that any kind of horrific behaviour by the nazis or anyone else has any justification for such abominations.

The only merits the nazis and any other exterminations of human beings is that the world understood the
enormous depths to which they could sink and created laws which attempted to make sure it NEVER happens again.

This thread IMO should be deleted. To ask if the nazis can be excused some of the filth they did because others had done the same, is an unspeakable disgrace. You might as well ask if what Stalin did was OK because Hitler had done it before.
and if you want to mention eugenics, the theories were not formulated to allow the nazis a get out of jail card. Its use was hijacked by the nazis and was redefined to make human extermination look respectable.

 

@Aquarius

I see you answering posts, in real time, in your thread (as they are being addressed to you, now). But are you ever going to address my post from this morning, on page 4?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-for-their-time.596942/page-4#post-1073250115

Or do you have no answer, a de facto admission that I have disproven your argument?


Here is just the beginning, if you think you can handle even that:

 

There are no fema camps.

There is no plan to commit "genocide" against Trump supporters.

Seriously bro?? I mean, seriously??

Wow.

 

This thread is overdue a merciful euthanasia...

 

I have a different perspective, not saying you are wrong. Desperation. Follow WWI, Germany experienced profound poverty, destitute, and poverty. Germans were looking for somebody that could provide necessities, turn the economy and rebuilding around, and improve their lives.

I think many of them knew full well what the agenda of the Nazis was, but there perceived it as beneficial to address deplorable conditions like starvation and aligned with the nazi beliefs as a means of seeing a glimmer of hope.

Those people that loaded people into gas chambers, and then carried their dead bodies out and loaded them onto trains knew exactly what they were doing. I think desperate people align with desperate measures when it means a choice between life and death. Fear of repercussions certainly had something to do with it, but this is far beyond that:

 

The old testament is rife with support of slavery as well.

The issue I have is the intermingling of religion and politics, especially as a means of ethical superiority.

Ronstar proclaimed to rely on beliefs from the bible as a means of opposition to slavery. That's pretty contradictory.

 

Who said you did?

 

I repeat:

 

I agree with that 100%.

I am not willing to give nazis a pass.

 

The only pass I am willing to give them is gas.

 

Because its the present and not the past.

 

Under the circumstances in August 1945, the U.S. was right to use atomic bombs on Japan.

 

Absurd.

 

Re:

Cremation was done in order to save lives from the rampant spread of typhus not as a means of execution.

The water table was especially high at Auschwitz - Birkenau - Monowitz so that if typhus infected bodies had been buried, they would have contaminated the drinking water.

 

How thoughtful.

 

I understand that. Just tell me why they needed to be cremated...

 

I just answered that.

Cremation was done to prevent the spread of typhus which, according to mainstream historian Arno Mayer, was the primary cause of death.

 

Agree 100%.

Stalin's Penal Policy caused about 3.4 million deaths

800,000 shout
1.1 million in exile
1.5 million in GULAG

Nazis killed about 21 million non-combatants.

 

No you did not answer why the Nazis had all these dead bodies that needed to be cremated.

Come on man!

 

I agree with Arno Mayer's assessment. Typhus was the primary killer and according to the captured Auschwitz Death books, more Catholics died than Jews.

I'm reluctant to say more because everyone who actually believes the standard holocaust narrative gets snarky and sarcastic when confronted with the facts.

Do you think that you can discuss this topic with civility?

 

Does Mayer deny the Holocaust? (Hint: no, he just gets habitually misrepresented by denialists)

 

No they weren't. It is a great shame on America and it should never be excused or minimized in any way nor should the death camps. The old saying of "Man is a wolf to man" is a horrible slander on wolves

 

Pushing back against cancel culture, the Nazi's of our time:

"I’D GIVE STUDENTS A CHANCE TO GROW AND CHANGE OVER TIME. DEANS, NOT SO MUCH": Hamburger & Volokh Debate: Are Law School Deans, Faculty, And Students Who Stifle Opposing Views Unfit Ever To Be Judges?

The question roughly is; how redeemable are these people?

One side:Wall Street Journal op-ed: Intolerant Lawyers Shouldn’t Be Judges, by Philip Hamburger (Columbia):

Law school deans, faculty and students who stifle opposing views are unfit ever to sit on the bench.

And we've had it with this canceling crap by small minded haters in positions of authority they clearly do not have character to hold.

Yes. This IS a fundamental principle of our Constitutional Liberal Democracy.

The question answers itself.

Another view: Eugene Volokh (UCLA), It's Blacklisting All the Way Down:

Nazi's were always evil and still are.