Ukraine Invasion planned on November 2020

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  1. Mike12

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    When Putin saw that a frail, stuttering old man and an ill prepared VP were elected on November 2020, he called his military chiefs and gave the orders to plan the ukraine invasion. It was planned back then. These two individuals we elected ran a campaign on being soft on illegals, making white conservatives from within and climate change the two biggest threats facing america. Weakness and incompetence assumed office on jan 21 and the world took notice, especially our enemies.

    My guess is that there may have been some hesitation within the Russian ranks along the way but then their initial assessments were confirmed. Biden administration started waging war on white conservatives, dubbing them biggest threat facing america. Kamala, in charge of overseeing border, was unable to secure them, allowing a record # of illegals to pour in. The withdrawal from Afghanistan signaled weakness and incompetence to rest of the world - Americans died, allies left to perish and billions in equipment left behind. The war on energy from within in the name of ‘saving the climate’ sent the message that US was ready to become more vulnerable and dependent on foreign nations for energy. Attempting to play nice with Iran was back on the table.

    Our enemies sensed weakness and saw incompetence at the helm of the world’s super power. Now we brace ourselves for 4 years of conflict, wars and enemies who will step in and gladly assume more control of the world.
     
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    1/10 for silly thread creation...
     
  3. Mike12

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    Sit back and enjoy the ride for next few years as enemies take advantage of who we put in WH. I predicted some of this, not really surprising. People take advantage of weakness.
     
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    You idol was giving Putin a reach around while he was taking it up the wazoo in Helsinki... He's the biggest putz the world has ever seen.
     
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    You may be right.

    But that was the worst mistake Putin ever made. This situation could not possibly be going worse for Russia.
     
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    at the expense of thousands dead civilians and a leveled ukraine… doesn’t matter?
     
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    Putin is the one who invaded.

    Are you trying to suggest that it's Biden's fault that Putin invaded? Putin would love that.

    Putin did this. Blaming Joe Biden for it because he simply exists is just playing into Putin's hands.
     
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    As much as i think biden is weak and frail, he is experienced. I hope he doesn’t drop dead any day now because BOY… who’s next in line is completely ill prepared. To me it’s blinken who seems to be in command, i would hope kamala and pelosi would just step aside and give power to blinken. Lesser of all evils.. He seems much more prepared knowledge-wise, physically and mentally than kamala or pelosi.
     
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    Putin is at fault but without a doubt, biden/harris were part of putin’s calcus.. and made the decision easier.
     
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    On that I agree! You see we can actually agree on something once in a while!
     
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    So did Trump bad mouthing allied nation. I think it would've been harder to get 141 nations on board against Russia wirth Trump at the helm.
     
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    Putin's perception of them was part of the it. Not anything they did.

    I would say their response to Putin's invasion has been far stronger than anything he ever imagined.

    Putin invaded Ukraine because he miscalculated Biden's weakness. That still isn't Biden's fault.
     
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    Not much of an advantage considering Russian economy is destroyed in a matter of 2 weeks.
     
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    yet, Putin invaded georgia under bush, crimea under obama and now ukraine under biden. Under trump? No invasions
     
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    it's absolutely hilarious that you think putin cares even the tiniest bit about what US domestic policy related to iLlEgAls is. how myopic must one be
     
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    joe biden was not president in 2014 LOL
     
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    Do you believe that Putin was afraid of Trump?
     
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    No need to invade, your idol was giving him everything he wanted and was working hard to diminish Nato...
     
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    For a second imagine how you, as Putin would view the current administration .

    ‘Mr putin, the US has made their own history, white right wing Americans their enemy. That’s their focus, labelling right wingers public ememy #1. Also, climate change sir, they see it as their second biggest threat and they are curtailing domestic oil production’

    Putin: ‘lol..that’s what they think are their biggest threats? I like what i hear on oil production, let’s make them more dependent on us’

    ‘Yes sir. I think we have a window sir and we should act swiftly. With Trump, he was too unpredictable, who knows what he would do that crazy man. Look at what he did to Asaad, ISIS and Iran. This current US administration can’t even secure their own borders and can’t control crime; in fact, they seem to support anti-law enforcement rhetoric’


    Putin: ‘What happened to this country, they were so tough under Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy, Reagan. They used to have tough leaders. Get my military advisors in, let's talk'


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    wow you have real talent! have you considered writing on fanfiction.net?
     
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    Is ths a screenplay or something?
     
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    Getting Ukraine involved with NATO is one of the reasons Russia invaded. The President of the USA is the figurehead of NATO and holds almost all of the power. So yeah.. it's Biden's fault for enticing a war between Russia and Ukraine when it should have remained a neutral country. The consistent saber rattling and coups of the NATO powers is getting ridiculous. Also breaking the Minsk agreement signed between Russia and Ukraine also warranted the war. Ukraine thought it would get NATO support but, that never came about.
     
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    So i assume you view the 2014 election in Ukraine as a western sponsored coup.
     
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    even in humor, as i touched it up a bit, i kept thinking 'This is exactly what i expected Putin to be thinking'. This is how these people think... US has become SOFT, too many leftists who just talk climate change and white supermacists and want to protect criminals, can't even control our borders. We need to harden up..
     
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    then you're as out of touch as out of touch can be.
     

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