Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. MiaBleu

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    Sanctions on Russia must not include ban on Russian energy imports, Hungarian prime minister says

    From CNN’s Emmet Lyons and Sugam Pokharel

    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Tuesday that while Hungary condemns Russia’s attack on Ukraine, it doesn't support sanctions against Moscow covering ban on Russian energy imports.

    "While we condemn Russia’s armed offensive and we also condemn the war, we will not allow Hungarian families to be made to pay the price of the war; and so the sanctions must not be extended to the areas of oil and gas,” Orban said in a statement following bilateral talks in London with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
    The extension of the sanctions to the Russian energy sector would represent a “disproportionately large burden” for Hungary, he said.

    Most of Hungary’s oil and natural gas imports come from Russia, and 90% of Hungarian families heat their homes with gas, Orban said, stressing that the Hungarian economy “simply cannot function" without Russian oil and gas.​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-08-22

    Seems Tucker Carlson's favorite European dictator won't let Europe do what needs to be done.
     
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    Needless to say that you are not dealing here with Libya, Serbia or Syria. You are dealing with a nuclear power and what you suggest means a nuclear war. Don'rt be delusional, please.There is no way to impose a no fly zero over Ukraine without starting a nuclear war. Sober up.
     
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    Don't worry about that. You'd better start stocking up on iodine tablets. ;-)
     
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    I don't think Hungary can afford to ban Russian energy. Their country is simply too dependent on Russian oil.
     
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    It's pretty much speculation that a no fly zone would initiate a nuclear war. if Putin launches a nuclear strike attacking NATO, it would pretty much be the end of Russia. Other countries would be hurt badly, but Russia would cease to exist.
     
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    Following the loss of significant amounts of front line equipment the Russians are sending in reinforcements......



    ....:rolleyes:
     
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    The Paradigm is Broken:
    Pain raised into the concept”—Theodor W. Adorno



    U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham (Nazi-S.C.), he mad, he really mad. Graham’s resolution before the Senate proclaims...
    • Strongly condemns what he sees as ongoing violence, war crimes, crimes against humanity and systematic human rights abuses carried out by the Russian armed forces and their proxies and Putin’s military commanders.
    • Encourages nations to take any and all action to investigate war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Russia.
    • Supports any investigation into war crimes, crimes against humanity, and systematic human rights abuses.
    • Encourages the United States government and partner nations to use its voice, vote and influence in international institutions to hold Putin accountable.
    Does Lindsey mean by the "international institutions" to hold Putin accountable mean The World Court at the Hague?


    “The United States government has consistently opposed an international court that could hold US military and political leaders to a uniform global standard of justice. The Clinton administration participated actively in negotiations towards the International Criminal Court treaty, seeking Security Council screening of cases. If adopted, this would have enabled the US to veto any dockets it opposed. When other countries refused to agree to such an unequal standard of justice, the US campaigned to weaken and undermine the court. The Bush administration, coming into office in 2001 as the Court neared implementation, adopted an extremely active opposition. Washington began to negotiate bilateral agreements with other countries, insuring immunity of US nationals from prosecution by the Court. As leverage, Washington threatened termination of economic aid, withdrawal of military assistance, and other painful measures. The Obama administration has so far made greater efforts to engage with the Court. It is participating with the Court's governing bodies and it is providing support for the Court's ongoing prosecutions. Washington, however, has no intention to join the ICC, due to its concern about possible charges against US nationals.”

    US Government Threatens Families of Int’l Criminal Court Staff If They Try Americans for War Crimes| March 22, 2020
    “The International Criminal Court approved an investigation into US war crimes in Afghanistan. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo responded by threatening to punish family members of ICC staff.”
     
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    Very much so, get tow truck out and haul them of. A large tractor will do to, as the Ukraine shows us.
     
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    There is no speculation. A no fly zone is a declaration of war. Shooting down Russian planes starts the nuclear war. Pretty simple. As for destruction, Germany, France, the UK, Poland, Brussels and of course all major U.S cities are also gone. I guess the winner is China.
     
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    Everybody would be hurt badly, Nuclear Winter and fall out would take care of them
     
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    Needless to say, you're not dealing with Chechnya, Georgia or Ukraine. If we decide to take Zelesnkyy up on his invitation to establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine then Putler will deal with it, the same way he dealt with us flying C-17s into Tblisi and docking our DDGs in Batumi while his half-drunk second-rate military was stumbling around Georgia.
     
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    First of all, I've never dealt with Chechnya, Georgia or Ukraine. Secondly, if I were in charge of Russia during those years, i would've already nuked the USA. Not because I hate the Americans, just to save the rest of the world before the neocons and other lunatics destroy the whole world. The amount of idiocy an stupidity coming from the U.S elites is simply astonishing.
     
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    You're full of speculation, and you conveniently forgot that Mother Russia will be turned into the world's largest ash tray and China will die alongside it. Emperor Xi knows this and so does his pygmy vassal in the Ulus of Jochi.

    You can beat your chest and have a banana, but THAT ain't gonna happen.
     
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    I’m not afraid. 8)
     
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    Your problem is that you don't understand that Russians are perfectly OK with being the largest ash tray in the world as long as the USA is obliterated together with them. The USA has far more to lose being more developed country. Insatiable greed will be the end of the USA.
     
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    No one accused you of being afraid. That was a friendly advice. Stock up on iodine tablets. You and your family will need them. Cheers.
     
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    The U.S. would survive a nuclear war with Russia. Russia would not. :)
     
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    In Soviet Russia, nuclear war survives you!
     
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    You too have been brainwashed with propaganda and lies.
    Lie again. Serpent's Island was attacked by the cruiser "Moskva". Your propagandists are generally lazy. They showed photographs of the ship and stated that it had been destroyed. Totally for fools.
     
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    I understand full well that Putin's flying Internet monkeys don't speak for ordinary sane Russians who aren't remotely interested in being vaporized in a nuclear blast or dying a long hideous death from radiation poisoning.

    More importantly, I understand that Emperor Xi is not going to allow his pygmy vassal in the Ulus of Jochi to make your depraved nuclear wet dreams a reality.

    Putin's insatiable greed will be the end of Russia. Soon it will become the largest province of China.
     
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    I'm sorry that these objective truths offend Putin propaganda.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    Guys, can we stop this talk before Armageddon becomes a self fulfilling prophecy?
     
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    YOU are DELUDED
    If YOU were fortunate enough to survive an all out Nuclear War
    ................ YOU
    would soon come "to Wish that YOU were DEAD"

    There will be NO PLACE for all of YOUR Insane Jingoism
    ............. and Blood Lust in a Post Apocalyptic World
     
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