Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Mircea

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    aye well...I guess Germany will continue to buy Russian Gas/Oil until it has alternatives....Russian will continue to sell gas/oil because it has no alternative..
    I think it's a bit early in this process to start dealing in absolutes...

    Germany has domestic issues which it needs to balance...I don't think resolve has much to do with this at the moment - I guess its a practical matter in the short term, however, this is a long term issue.... one which Putin didn't bargain for. Russia attacked Ukraine on the back of a strategy of lighting military success, no reciprocating and rapid regime change. I imagine they were prepared for sanctions in the aftermath but not to the extent they've got them now as time marches on. Russia fuked. Russia has fuk up on a galactic scale and now are in deep shyte despite no matter what the Russian trolls here would have you think. Our resident trolls are merely looking at what happened yesterday or may happen tomorrow but cannot fathom that this will unravel over the long term. Germany will find alternative energy sources over the medium term and will not be dependent on Russian gas as will many other countries. But the Russian economy will still be totally banjaxed.
     
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    There is only way to read the MSM, and that is by unflipping everything they write. In other words if they say that the Russians are not winning, then you can be assured that they are winning, and if they write they're killing civilians, then you can be certain the Ukrainians are doing it.

    According to the American military analyst Scott Ritter, the rocket that killed the predominantly Russian people at the train station, (who were leaving so as not to be used as human shields by Azov), other than having been discarded by Russia years ago and used only by Ukraine, came from a Ukrainian held area.

    Ritter said he took every deviation into account and it still shows 100% that it came from a Ukrainian held area. Naturally Twitter suspended Scott Ritter's account - which infuriated a lot of people. Looks like the censorship of our totalitarian Empire of Lies, has struck again.



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    It where just so easy if it were just Germany who needs Russia's gas. Germany is a gas hub. Most of the gas gets sold to other European countries, which then sell the excess again.
    Poland for example, or other East European countries, one of their customers is the Ukraine. The Ukraine buys Russian gas from Poland, which bought it from German companies, which bought it from Russia, its called reverse flow.
    At the present the pipeline through the Ukraine runs at 90% capacity, which will net the Ukraine around 7 billion Dollar in fees.

    If Germany the hub says today no more Russian gas, then this would effect half of Europe, including the Ukraine.
    7 billion in transfer fees and no gas from the East European countries.
    One more fact, if lets say no more gas from Russia, then the EU economy goes down the drain, which means the Ukraine goes down the drain and the EU will not have the money to rebuilt the Ukraine.
    This is a sour apple, everybody has to chew on and swallow, for a few more years, till the EU and Germany have found other suppliers.
     
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    Right
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    The game is over. We all know what you are defending.

    The most enlightening aspect of this is to see just how pathetic and weak the "mighty" russian military really is. LOL!!!

    Killing russian tanks is like a turkey shoot.
     
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    To be or not to be....to press or not to press....??? My 2 pennies, Putin will press the button if the USA crosses his red line.
    Putin takes ‘nuclear football’ to funeral of Russian politician

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-nuclear-football-funeral-b2054647.html
     
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    If he pushes the button, he dies. And so does his family.

    Analysts say he is rational; just cruel, vicious, and without a conscience. Even he knows he can't win.
     
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    Analysts analysed him for decades and somehow always got it wrong. He will die anyway....Make no mistake, if the survival of Russia is at stake, the USA will be turned into a massive fireball. He won't go down quietly.
     
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    Show me another example when the leader of the China, France, the USA, the UK etc...took it to the funeral, and I will concede.
     
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    Ukraine and Russia: What you need to know right now (msn.com)
    A grave with dozens of civilians has been found in Buzova village near Kyiv, an official said, the latest reported mass grave to be discovered after Russian forces retreated from areas near the capital to focus their assault on the east.

    FIGHTING

    * Russian forces fired shells into Ukraine's Luhansk and Dnipro regions hitting several buildings, wounding one person and causing a fire, officials said.

    * British military intelligence said Russia was seeking to strengthen troop numbers with personnel discharged from military service since 2012, as losses mount from the invasion.

    CIVILIANS

    * Residents of the besieged region of Luhansk in eastern Ukraine will have nine trains to use on Sunday for evacuation, Luhansk regional Governor Serhiy Gaidai wrote on Telegram.

    * European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Saturday Russian forces appeared to have committed war crimes by targeting civilians in Ukraine, but she said lawyers must investigate the alleged incidents.
    SUPPORT

    * Zelenskiy met Prime Minister Boris Johnson in Kyiv on Saturday, with the British leader using the visit to set out a new financial and military aid package for Ukraine.

    * Johnson was the latest foreign leader to visit Kyiv after Russian forces pulled back from the outskirts of the capital.

    * Donors including Canada and the European Commission pledged a on Saturday combined 9.1 billion euros in donations, loans and grants to support refugees fleeing the war.

    ECONOMY

    * Ukraine has banned all imports from Russia, one of its key trading partners before the war with annual imports valued at about $6 billion, and called on other countries to follow and impose harsher economic sanctions.

    QUOTES

    * "We will never forget everything we saw here, this will stay with us for our whole lives," Bohdan Zubchuk, a community police officer in Bucha.

    (Compiled by Robert Birsel and Frances Kerry)

    These are updates on what you need to know with the Russia-Ukraine war. There is a future possibility that there will all explode Russia will lose more Generals and high commissioned officers in the process. What happens from here remains to be seen.
     
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    You would be surprised by the extent of my engagement with Russians.
     
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    Nope. Provision of intelligence is not participation in a decision to use chemical weapons.
     
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    No one has deprived Russia of anything.
     
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    The beat goes on.
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    Shoes were placed alongside candles during a demonstration Sunday in Helsinki to mourn the children killed in Mariupol. (Jussi Nukari/Lehtikuva/Reuters)
    Hundreds of tiny shoes: Protest spotlights child death toll in Mariupol
    There were shiny black boots. Cozy slippers. Pink and purple sneakers. In total, 210 pairs of shoes displayed in Helsinki symbolized the number of young lives Ukrainian officials said were lost in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
    By Jennifer Hassan
     
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    Russians who are being routed by Ukraine don't scare the US.
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    Russia warns of 'direct military confrontation' with US; Moscow taps new
     
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    The so called analysts will say anything they can about Putin because he refuses to pay homage to the 'great ones'. Don't think this war is to protect Ukraine or they wouldn't have been trained to fight and die for so many years. It goes a lot deeper than that. Ukraine is just an expediency that's being used by the World Economic Forum to destroy Russia and grab its assets. But instead of destroying Russia, Russia is slowly destroying us - one dollar at a time.

    Washington cannot win the military war nor the economic war - except in the minds of the brainwashed, simply because 'hubris' never wins. They have always been destined for a fall.





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    I wonder whether the Pootster would dare to go a few rounds.
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    Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko visits with city firefighters. (Heidi Levine for The Post)
    A former boxer turned Kyiv mayor becomes a rousing wartime leader
    A decade ago, Vitali Klitschko was best known as a legendary boxer and heavyweight world champion. Now he has emerged as an outsize figure in Russia’s war in Ukraine.
    By Siobhán O'Grady
     
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    An Italian journalist has taken the time to track the serial number of that tochka-u missile....through its chain of custody...and yes, it's the Ukrainians. Fools seem to forget serial numbers are printed on them for a reason...one of the reasons is to keep track of inventory.

    Zelensky is the real war criminal, but we have known this since he came into office.
     
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    Fake news. LOL!
     
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    Various sources are reporting Russia is still having serious issues with logistics and transport for the its force build-up on the Eastern confrontation line. Belgorod being used as a major re-supply hub by Russian forces due to its rail link. However the road links forward into Ukraine from Belgorod tend to converge on Kharkiv which is held by Ukrainian forces. This is forcing many Russian re-supply convoys to travel withing range of Ukrainian artillery, drones and Switchblades. ......:)

    Normally the solution to this dilemma would be for combat engineering units to build new roads to key locations, saving time and fuel on transport & minimizing potential losses in the process. But apparently none have been built yet, which indicates that combat engineering units and their equipment are, like transport and logistics yet another area of the Russian armed forces that has seen chronic under investment & wastage over the past few decades.
     
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    Easier to make up a fake Italian journalist and fake news than to admit a war crime. Tsk tsk.
     
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    Oh really? Prove it. And while you're at it, could you please find those weapons of mass destruction our government told us was in Iraq to justify that invasion.

    I mean, how many time does the US government have to lie about serious **** before people wake up? Vietnam = premised on bullshit lies. Yugoslavia = premised on bullshit lies. Iraq = premised on bullshit lies. Syria = premised on bullshit lies.

    Our government is ****ing trash. Have you ever wondered how our politicians get rich in office?? Wars...the military industrial complex pays well....after they dupe the US public.
     
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