Why Should Defend other's borders While Ignoring American borders? so confused

Ukraine's nationality and as history began much earlier. Ukraine first fought for independence in the 19th Century, but lost. The territory was divided into three existing empires. After WWW1 it was again established as an independent nation until the Soviet Union invaded and absorbed the nation in the USSR. It remained that way until the fall of the USSR. But the point is that the people of Ukraine have always thought of an independent nation far earlier than what you described.

 

If Americans are being pushed out of a job, isn't it because the American failed to keep up the job skills and believes they are entitled to said job?

Most of the illegals who are coming here are working as day laboerer, farm hands, and other odd jobs. No illegal is being a CPA, IT person, or god forbid, CEO of Twitter, right? Or are we also talking about legal immigrants too in your rant, nativist.

 

Huh?


Please elaborate per the quote. or not

Moi

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What war broke out in the 19th century? All I could find was a Ruthenian-Lithuanian noble rebelling against Russia for the lack of protection and siding with the Swedes but that was during the 17th century.

 

They existed. And even if that didn't, that's a really, really shitty excuse. And anyone dumb enough to think that Russia is invading Ukraine to "save their people" needs to look into getting their lobotomy reversed. I'd rather go with the capitalist than the fascist dictator, but you do you, fam.

 

Is it really a lack of skill when someone tells you to train up this new employee and you're out of a job in a month+? Why exactly does this replacement need training and expertise from a clearly "entitled" American who failed to keep his job? Is it because this "entitled" American is being paid the wage that is standard and their new found indentured servants from India are willing to work the same job for 1/4 of the pay? It's definitely better compared to their **** smelling nation covered in trash. They'll gladly rent an apartment with four other dudes in a one bedroom apartment if means not living in India again.

All of the White collar jobs are done legally, yes. But it's being done in such a fashion to make it impossible for natives to even compete in the market. A junior developer needs 5+ yrs of experience of a certain language and they'll declare no one is fit for the job. Hire an offshore worker to fill in this slot because they made a job so unreasonable in both requirements + pay or if they're given the opportunity they'll get a servant shipped to them directly to work in the states. Legal immigration should end immediately. There is no benefit for an American to bring over a foreigner and all of his family to displace him from skills, land, & wealth. Especially at a time where Americans aren't being paid enough to sustain beyond paycheck to paycheck.

 

Anyone against NATO = Fascist. It's entirely laughable at this point. Trump is a fascist, Bush is a fascist, everyone is a fascist! That word means **** these days. I'll gladly say I'm a Nationalist.

Donbas is enough evidence of thousands killed since 2014-2022. You know ever since NATO coup'd Ukraine to get ahold of the new resources that were discovered and suddenly all of these inexperienced children of politicians are working there for millions. Yeah... it's all about being altruistic and saving people from the evil "Facism".

 

Yes, the fake bull **** you just made up is laughable. So why did you make it up? There are some things you shouldn't buy for a dollar, avatars notwithstanding

 

Which part is fake? NATO declaring all of their enemies fascists/nazis at any time they're at odds with them or the thousands dead in the Donbas and their legitimate elections being suppressed by the Ukrainian government?

 

Quote anyone saying that everyone who disagrees with NATO is a fascist. In the meantime, I called Putin a fascist.

 

America has battled illegal immigration on the southern border for decades- and we have over 20 million illegals living here to prove it wasn't succeeding. Trump moved to make crossing illegally more difficult, so we could reduce that. Biden- ends wall construction. Then he starts flying planeloads of undocumented illegals, straight form the border, around the country in the dark of night. Federal law- US Code 1324a makes it a felony to invite, assist aid, harbor, transport etc- any person wanting to enter or having entered illegally.

You have to be an idiot to be unable to understand the law or care about the principle or the people you are sworn to represent. There is no logical reason for this conduct, no alternate explanation.
And the oval office is NO place for an idiot. Put a clown in office, expect and get a circus.

 

Yeah, who started calling him a fascist first? You or the media? You do know the Media = MegaCorps = NATO right? If you're not with them you're against them.

 

You are referring to legal immigration, mostly with IT. and yes, it is a lack of skill, and to some extent cost. In the United States, an IT person has to be retrained every 5 years or so because computer technology and programming skills changes are rampant. Progress right? Since corporations are not in the business of education, that would mean going to back to school and getting retrained, borrowing money, etc. In some cases, for-profit education centers can complete this in 2 years or less but it may cost $25k or so. And that is the fault of the US education system, no one else, not the immigrants or the

Furthermore, for the past 4 decades plus, the real wage has been stagnant. Even where I live, because we have a hot real estate market, prices on homes are becoming unaffordable. But again, how is that the fault of immigrants? It's not. Nor is the fault of the government. Welcome to a capitalistic system we have.

 

It's not the fault of the US government permitting for the replacement of native workers with foreign ones because the corporations bribe politicians to allow them to acquire more green card holders? Blaming it solely on the US education system which today lets people slide on by and is no more than a glorified babysitter center isn't an answer to the failure(s). If there were no green cards corporations would be forced to retrain/train new employees that are native to the country. Ban offshore workers too and suddenly everyone is able to acquire a job with a worthwhile wage.

It's been stagnant ever since the USA opened the floodgates back in 1965 which permitted people from all over to come to the USA. Which inevitably led to the lower IQ populations in South America, Asia, and Africa to arrive in the USA which effectively took blue collar jobs from citizens. Whether they came legally or illegally they took jobs from citizens and lowered the wages with the high influx of workers to jobs ratio.

Once we had our blue collar jobs taken green cards were given out to people with ability and they're now taking the white collar jobs. Now we're in a situation where we just have entire sectors controlled by foreigners in IT and they're all racially motivated to bring more of their own people into that sector. Whether they're Chinese or Indian or w/e. We're left with a population that isn't loyal to the country or from it making economic decisions that impact all citizens here.

We need to ban immigration entirely and deport these people back to their native countries. Not only are we negatively impacting our nation with the over saturation of workers but, they're also causing a brain drain in their host nations. It would also allow the USA to undergo changes with our automation processes when it comes to blue collar labor rather than utilizing slave labor.

 

That happens because managers (US citizens) are either gullible idiots or take bribes. Ending immigration is a ridiculous idea that would negatively affect thousands of businesses because of the corrupt nature of some Americans.

 

wow

why all the anger??

the tone of your posts suggests you have been a victim of the immigration system

this is my 50th year of filing and paying income tax in this great country..

NOT even one time did an immigrant ever threaten or diminish my ability or right to work

why is it you claim the American worker is a victim of immigrants?? specifically Mexican immigrants??

I am so damn tired of the whing and crying of people claiming to be victims of the government

I consider myself and all other Americans to be very fortunate to call the USA home..

one trait that every successful person has is below

no matter the circumstances or hardships..a successful person refuses to be a victim

there are exceptions to the above.. but damn few

 

You either correct the problem now or let it continue. Immigration needs to be halted. The country is in a dire situation and opening the door to hundreds of thousands of non-loyal economic refugees isn't beneficial. Allowing green card holders to control all of our white collar positions isn't intelligent either. You're either Pro-American or you're Pro-International businesses.

 

Why shouldn't I have anger? My fellow citizens are placed in situations where doing the "right" thing that society has told them has left them vulnerable and unable to thrive. Why shouldn't I be angry that MegaCorp buys all of the land, foreigners buy property, the next generation is left working tables while we import IT/Medical staff from foreign countries because corporations are unwilling to invest in US citizens, and there is no coming out of this hole where the American citizenry doesn't lose in the path it's trending. I don't care about your experiences and how wonderful your boomer world has been. You can pound your chest and claim it's the best country because of the economic benefits you reaped during the peak of the USA. While you leave the next generations with nothing but, lint in their pockets and debt slavery all because you wanted cheaper goods from East Asia and cheap labor from South American slaves.

 

must suck to be you

I know many successful people of every generation

and I also know many cry babies from every generation..

I suggest you get a job or education and prevent the MegaCorp from the need to hire immigrants

the government has hundreds of programs to provide training and education for those wanted a better life

yes, I am a boomer, and yes I benefitted from the prosperity of the country

but for every boomer like me that lived an honest life and worked hard for 40 years to retire financially secure

there is a boomer that was lazy and dishonest and retired living off the tit of the government

IMHO it is the GEN X politicians that have brought down the country..

the canadian born Ted Cruz and other senators in their 50's have been the downfall of the country

they bitch and whine and never have any new ideas ..their goals seems to be to oppose anything new

I am sorry the system has failed you and your generation...

maybe try moving to a better country

ever hear the saying

"if you can't beat em, join em"

 

Of course it's not all about you, right? I personally know of many "American Born" that have suffered from illegal labor and loss of contracts, companies and jobs.. I have also seen wages drop drastically in competition with "Under the table workers" paying no state or federal tax's and working the same jobs for half what citizen labor "WERE" making

So now what?

 

I get paid $125k for a salary. I don't know what nonsense you think this is all about. I have friends who suffer because of idiocy such as yours. You only care about your damn self. You can shift the blame to GenX but, all I see are 60+yr old Boomer politicians running the show and your generation has elected them for decades. Your generation allowed the 1965 Immigration act to get passed. You left nothing but a mess for the future generations to pickup from.

 

We are paying just under 20,000 employees each day to guard our borders. are we wasting our money???